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#65859 - 04 Dec 07 14:46 JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity
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Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity

The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Experts and activists on Monday urged the government to reject the pornography bill because it was "unnecessary, legally inappropriate and would threaten the country's stability".

"The articles (of the bill) are open to so many interpretations. It creates uncertainty instead of unity," Hendardi, the head of the Setara Institute for Democracy and Peace, told reporters at the Nahdatul Ulama head office in Central Jakarta.

He said the regulation was discriminative and undermined cultural diversity, disregarding all legal standards in Indonesia.

"Our standpoint is clear: we are completely against pornography. But this bill is not the answer to our problems."

Ratna Sarumpaet, an artist and women's rights activist, said the core of the problem with pornography was Indonesia's corrupt law enforcement.

"Let's just use the available laws and strengthen our law enforcement. For example, if we really abided by the law regulating our media, we wouldn't be seeing half-naked women on the covers of magazines sold freely on the streets," Ratna said.

The bill, which allows "pornography" in the arts, religious ceremonies and education, would endanger the development of the arts here, she said.

"The law even grants power to organizations or other groups, like the Islamic Defenders Front, to resort to anarchy for the sake of ending pornography," she said, referring to an article of the bill that calls on all parties "to prevent the making, distribution and use of pornography for inappropriate purposes".

Musdah Mulia, an Islamic scholar and long-time anti-pornography activist, said the bill was based on a biased understanding of religious teachings.

"If the government thinks the bill can fix our nation's moral decadence, they are on the wrong track," she said.

She said the bill considered a woman's body "evil" and also portrayed women as the "backbone (of) Indonesia's morality", two concepts she said were gender-biased.

"I could go on and on analyzing the bill from an Islamic point of view and still come up with the conclusion the bill is mubazir (unnecessary)," she said.

Yenny Rosa Damayanti, a women's rights activist, said the law, which has been called the government's effort to protect women from being objects of pornography, endangered women who were forced or involuntarily caught up in situations or activities that are perceived as pornographic.

"This law allows women to be criminalized for their actions. What if they were forced, victims of trafficking or victims of hidden cameras?" she said.

Yenny added the law was unable to provide a clear definition of "pornography" but categorized it as "light" and "heavy" pornography.

She said, "Whose perspective are we using here? How can we categorize something so vague?" (lva)
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#65863 - 04 Dec 07 16:45 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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How a bout a picture of a bird with a zebra!

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#65867 - 04 Dec 07 17:55 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: Dilli]
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How about a photo of a sad old white git with a young asian woman?

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#65869 - 04 Dec 07 19:26 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: kenyeung]
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Wot, no photo?

How about a photo of a sad white couple who forgot to hide their "accessories"

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#65870 - 04 Dec 07 19:28 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: Dilli]
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I hope this is one of the feed's which gets fed directly onto Kuku's Jawawa web site!
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#65874 - 04 Dec 07 20:01 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: Dilli]
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Quoting: Dilli
Wot, no photo?


Fair shake of the old salt-shaker, I was worried you'd tread on my toes.



Surely some other readers have additional pictures of an old bule man with a young attractive woman? Without reaching straight for their personal album.

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#65876 - 04 Dec 07 20:04 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: kenyeung]
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Lupert! I Ruv you!
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#65898 - 05 Dec 07 04:29 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: Dilli]
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Quoting: Dilli
I hope this is one of the feed's which gets fed directly onto Kuku's Jawawa web site!

'fraid not wink
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#65900 - 05 Dec 07 05:50 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Bastard, I was hoping this one would get under the radar!
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#65907 - 05 Dec 07 09:23 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: kenyeung]
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Quoting: kenyeung
Quoting: Dilli
Wot, no photo?


Fair shake of the old salt-shaker, I was worried you'd tread on my toes.



Surely some other readers have additional pictures of an old bule man with a young attractive woman? Without reaching straight for their personal album.


Listen, if you were pushing 80 and had a billion dollars who wouldn't fancy stuffing some of it in some plump young bird's knickers.
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#65908 - 05 Dec 07 09:45 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: Roy's Hair]
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I never took her for a plumper!

However, I'd still have a go, purely in the interests of accurate reporting!
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#65911 - 05 Dec 07 11:32 Re: JP/Critics say porn bill a threat to diversity [Re: Dilli]
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Plump in all the right places I meant. 'Ripe' would be a better word perhaps.
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