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#65103 - 15 Nov 07 19:38 An 8-yr-old's Editorial
riccardo Offline
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Good GAWD!! This is the main EDITORIAL from the leading English Daily in Indonesia, a nationwide paper that has a global readership (via Internet). I think we can safely call this a train wreck. It looks like it was written by an 8-year-old, edited by a native speaker of Swahili and fact-checked by the senile ex-Propaganda Minister.

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Howard, Rudd and Indonesia

Australians are set to vote next week in a federal election that will see incumbent Prime Minister John Howard pitched against opposition leader Kevin Rudd.
Indonesians often feel irritated with the Australian government, however, this country needs to realize that whoever wins the Nov. 24 general election, Australia will likely give more respect to Indonesia only once the republic can prove it deserves the respect it demands.
When reciting the shortcomings of our neighbor, we should also try to realize precisely why our friend dislikes us.
We accuse Australia of being arrogant in its dealings with Indonesia, but do we ever try to find out why Australians are arrogant? Do we ever try to help change their attitude?
When our neighbor demands we try to end the chaos here in Indonesia, because they are disturbed, we should try to help realize calm.
Indonesia traditionally has stronger relations with Australia when its federal Labor Party is in power.
In this context, it is understandable many Indonesians hope the Labor Party's leader Kevin Rudd will take out Australia's election next week.
When Paul Keating was in power and Soeharto controlled this country, our bilateral relations with Australia were probably at their peak.
Rudd is regarded as more pro-Asia than his opponent Howard -- and the fluent-in-Chinese Labor leader has promised to provide more funds for Indonesian studies at Australian universities.
Interest in Indonesia continues to decline in Australia, among other countries, because of the republic's weakening economy [WHAT??!! RI's economy is the best it's been in a decade and getting stronger!!!!] and the rising fear around Indonesian-based terrorism.
Prime Minister Howard can and has angered Indonesians with his blunt and frank remarks, often perceived as arrogant, but his government made maximum efforts when the 2004 tsunami hit Indonesia.
There are so many reasons to despite the Australian leader, but there are also many reasons to argue he has done much to help Indonesia, including in our war against terrorism.
In any bilateral or multilateral relations, all parties are required to adopt the principles of equality and mutual benefits.
In practice however the more powerful and more wealthy will dominate relations, while the weaker or the poorer will always complain of inequality.
This situation will never change unless concerned parties can reach a new equilibrium. Indonesia is a huge country in terms of geography, population and economic potential, and Australia is smaller. [WHAT!!?? Australia covers 7.6 million sq KM, while RI is 1.9 million, a quarter of the size of Australia!]
But in terms of real political, military and economic power, Australia is the more mighty.
Indonesia often complains its wealthy neighbor takes on roles of preacher and police -- telling us what to do -- just because they provide Indonesia financial assistance and loans.
In the meantime, Australian taxpayers often feel irritated when they know how their money was abused in Indonesia. [what's that, like it was defiled and urinated upon? Beat black and blue?]
Have we ever tried to think as Australians? For instance, the publication of a senior Indonesian police officer having dinner with convicted terrorists sparked anger in Australia -- they thought it was ridiculous our police would treat as such those responsible for the butchering of innocent victims, including Australians.
The relationship between Indonesia and Australia is often described as one of love and hate -- with both sides unable to get rid of each other.
But economy remains the crucial factor. Although Australia has not reached the industrialized nation status, [OH my GAWD! What? GDP/capita is on par with Japan and W. Europe and less than 3% of people work in the ag sector] because its economy is still dominated by agricultural and natural-resource products, it is economically more advanced than Indonesia.
Australia is Indonesia's sixth largest trading partner and 10th largest foreign direct investor.
Strong and mutually beneficial economic relations are crucial in determining the quality of our bilateral ties.
Whoever wins the Australian election, our relationship with Australia will remain pivotal.
But when we want respect from our neighbor, we must prove first we deserve to be respected. [this is the only correct sentence in the whole piece, even if overly simplistic for an editorial.]
Howard is an old friend of Indonesia, but perhaps we need Rudd as a new friend. Who knows -- maybe we can build a better future with a new friend?


Edited by riccardo (15 Nov 07 22:53)
Edit Reason: Aussies wanna be like Americans in their spelling of Labor
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#65104 - 15 Nov 07 20:03 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: riccardo]
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"Labor" is in fact correct. one of these accidents of history, when the Labor Party was born in the 1890s.
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#65105 - 15 Nov 07 20:33 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: riccardo]
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oh god, i'm gonna have fun with this one.....

"When reciting the shortcomings of our neighbor, we should also try to realize precisely why our friend dislikes us. "

Shortcomings?

like what ?

Like valuing democracy, education, hard work, disdain for religion.....

"We accuse Australia of being arrogant in its dealings with Indonesia, but do we ever try to find out why Australians are arrogant? Do we ever try to help change their attitude? "

I still get wound up at the Indonesian concept of arrogance, just how exactly has Australia acted arrogantly? when they have been on the back foot constantly since about 1960; maybe because they had the audacity to stop the East Timor genocide after being invited by Habibie to do so....

"...it is understandable many Indonesians hope the Labor Party's leader Kevin Rudd will take out Australia's election next week."

Most Indonesians dont give a shit who wins the election and wouldn't know the differecne between the two candidates/parties anyway....

"When Paul Keating was in power and Soeharto controlled this country, our bilateral relations with Australia were probably at their peak. "

Thats becuase Keating was a crook and an Asian dictator suck-hole; he accepted $$$ for the ADF to train with Kopassus when they were at the height of the murderous best, an embarassment to Australia; funny, how Keating sold his half million dollar share of a piggery to an Indonesian businessman, especially since he had only ever been a career politican on a politicians wage.....

"Rudd is regarded as more pro-Asia than his opponent Howard -- and the fluent-in-Chinese Labor leader has promised to provide more funds for Indonesian studies at Australian universities."

Rudd was a low-level diplomat and has openly admitted his public gaffe when translating for a Chinese dignitiary, he is far from fluent in Manadarin and would be the first to admit it. Howard has done more for Austrlaian crediblity in Asia by proving he is NOT a suckhole and he has made tangible relations with the neighbours who count; Rudd will be another weak suck-hole like Whitlam, Hawe and Keating.


"Prime Minister Howard can and has angered Indonesians with his blunt and frank remarks, often perceived as arrogant .."

Such as when?

Howard is dull and un-charismatic, but he is a skilled communicator and crafty politican, unlike some of his northern 'brethren'...the dildo who wrote this excrement needs serious re-education, with a cricket bat

"Have we ever tried to think as Australians?"

I won't even touch this one, afterall, its the main reason why RI is a mess....no logic

"But economy remains the crucial factor"

no it doesn't, political stability is, hence why the Australian govenrment voluntarily takes it up the clacker everytime the RI govt fucks them about...

"..Although Australia has not reached the industrialized nation status.."

oh, for the love of god.......
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#65106 - 15 Nov 07 22:53 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Quoting: KuKuKaChu
"Labor" is in fact correct. one of these accidents of history, when the Labor Party was born in the 1890s.


Noted and edited...
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#65117 - 16 Nov 07 07:49 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: riccardo]
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Oh naga -- make sure you tune in and watch that little toad Howard lose his own seat in the election. That little prick has lied to the Australian population for years ... I for one will be celebrating hard when they have finally removed him!
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#65120 - 16 Nov 07 08:00 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: chewwyUK]
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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i shall find it hard to wipe the smirk from my face when howard loses his own electorate.
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#65121 - 16 Nov 07 08:10 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: chewwyUK]
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It was Steve Irwin Day yesterday...


"And jas look at this fella! He's 5...maybe 6 feet tall! He's got a highly polished slap head which helps 'im reflect sunloit in the bush. Notice his stout, rotund torso in which he stores up fat to keep 'im alive during his wandering in the polidikal wilderness mates!"


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Edited by Roy's hair (16 Nov 07 10:04)
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#65123 - 16 Nov 07 08:30 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: Roy's Hair]
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crikey!
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#65126 - 16 Nov 07 08:52 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Time for a cheeky repost



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#65128 - 16 Nov 07 09:00 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: Dilli]
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the real attacker is actually rather fond of Herr Howard.


Edited by Dilli (16 Nov 07 09:23)
Edit Reason: Sanity Preservation
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#65129 - 16 Nov 07 09:50 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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maybe you should change the name to Voldermort ... or as he is better known "he who's name cannot be mentioned"


Edited by chewwyUK (16 Nov 07 09:50)
Edit Reason: black magic at work
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#65130 - 16 Nov 07 09:53 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: chewwyUK]
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I thought that was you!
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#65150 - 16 Nov 07 19:41 Re: An 8-yr-old's Editorial [Re: Dilli]
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Howard may well lose, but he remains the greatest PM the country ever had; only Menzies had a better winning streak.

After nearly 10yrs of communist mismanagement, it was Howard who led the country back to its rightful glory.

Yes, he's a liar and has lied for some time, but just exactly how does that make him different from every other elected politician in the world right now?

His only real gaffes were Iraq and the IR legislation debacle, other than that, he has put the country back on track, watch how Laobr fucks it up as they usually do.....

Eagerly awaiting communist rebuke...
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