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#62597 - 30 Sep 07 07:01 BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer
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From http://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?Id=4053

Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer

Letter from Australian Tourist Causes Suspension of Bali Immigration Officer and Prompts Inspection Visit by Vice President Jusuf Kalla at Bali's Airport.

(9/29/2007) An angry complaint from an Australian tourist regarding his run in with a corrupt immigration officer at Bali's Ngurah Rai Airport on September 16, 2007 precipitated a surprise visit by Indonesia's Vice President Jusuf Kalla to Bali's Airport on September 26th and a public demand that the immigration officer, Nanang Yunanto, be fired.

In a widely circulated letter from Geoff and Dorothy Longhurst is told the harrowing tale of how JetStar failed to adequately screen passports on one of their Bali-bound flights, allowing Mrs. Longhurst to board a flight with less than the mandatory 6 month's remaining validity in her passport. In fact, Ms. Longhurst arrived in Bali with only 5 months and 2 weeks remaining in her passport. As a result, Dorothy faced the prospect of denied entry to Indonesia and immediate deportation back to Australia.

According to the letter, the Longhurst's were ushered into a side office at the airport where an immigration officer, identified as Nanang Yunanto, offered to resolve their immigration problem for an unofficial fee of US$4,000, later lowered to US$2,000.

In the end, according to the letter, the officer became abusive and the Longhurts were compelled to return to Australia on the next flight.

Incensed at the crass behavior of the immigration officer, Bali tourism leaders brought the Longhurt's letter to the attention of ranking immigration officials in Bali who, to their credit, relived Yunanto of his Bali post, assigning the man outside the island for eventual disposition by National immigration officials.

While Indonesia's Vice President, Jusuf Kalla was in Bali to open the PATA Conference, he paid a surprised visit on the Airport immigration office were he demanded that Yunanto be fired for his alleged extortion against the Australian tourists. Kalla told the local press, "Make an official ceremony and take stern action; openly fire him and announce it to the mass media."

Said to be incensed over the action of the immigration officer, the Vice President characterized the action by Yunanto as "unforgivable" requiring that the erring government official be made a public example for the purpose of educating other civil servants.

The Director General of Immigration promised Vice President Kalla that one the investigation against Yunanto is completed and his guilt documented he would be compelled to attend a mass assembly of immigration officers to be stripped of his rank and uniform as part of his dismissal process from the immigration service.

During his visit to the airport in Bali, Kalla also called for higher levels of service to international passengers and faster processing time at immigration counters.
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#62604 - 30 Sep 07 07:13 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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I read the original letter, amusing and startling, wonder if Kalla will end his tenure in a similar fashion?
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#62605 - 30 Sep 07 07:26 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: Dilli]
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bart, among others, published the original letter.

in relation to kalla, as always, consider his actions, not his words. my bet is the worst that will happen to the parasite Nanang Yunanto is a "mutasi" to Medan. here he can resume his activities against malaysians and NGO personnel from Aceh.

and of course, the corruption within immigration in particular is institutionalised to the point that officers think that extortion is their birthright.

Mr Kalla, while you're in bali, here's someone else to go for:

Bpk. H. Sahedi, SE (0815 8185755) from imigrasi denpasar, who is at this very moment attempting to extort THR money from Dr. Ian, an australian who had the temerity to obtain a work permit.
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#62606 - 30 Sep 07 07:46 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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one more thing, mr kalla; could you pop over to Bandung and have a good talking to Pak Undang (0812 234 9663) in the immigration office there, who is at this very moment demanding payment of Rp7,5 million from a foreign work permit holder for reasons that are not at all clear.

and while you're there ...
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#62609 - 30 Sep 07 08:03 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Now this one interests me. Is everyone saying that they haven't ever paid off someone to get what they want?

I'll be honest and say that before my kids got their green passports , I once paid for a exit and re-entry to Indo , all while the kids where in the swimming pool .

Our we all working/living within the terms of our permits?
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#62611 - 30 Sep 07 08:05 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Quoting: Capt. Mainwaring
Our we all working/living within the terms of our permits?

yes, of course. why you ask??
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#62612 - 30 Sep 07 08:07 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Because I know full well that many of us don't, and to be honest with you I can't stand hypocrits - like the guy who stands in the pub with a vodka in one hand and a ciggy in the other saying "I never take drugs".
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#62613 - 30 Sep 07 08:10 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Quoting: Capt. Mainwaring
Because I know full well that many of us don't, and to be honest with you I can't stand hypocrits - like the guy who stands in the pub with a vodka in one hand and a ciggy in the other saying "I never take drugs".

well, that guy ain't me! smile
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#62615 - 30 Sep 07 08:12 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Yes, I know that you don't smoke and very rarely drink.
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#62618 - 30 Sep 07 08:17 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Yes, I know that you don't smoke and very rarely drink.

i do, however, drink copious amounts of coffee and tea. and yes, they *are* drugs!!
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#62620 - 30 Sep 07 08:23 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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I only smoked B&H and drank vodka last night. I shall wander off into the dawn of this mornings hippocratic oath!
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#62621 - 30 Sep 07 08:25 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: Dilli]
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And I am fucking knackered. A 30 minute bicycle run, under the guise of exercise has fucking killed me!
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#62669 - 01 Oct 07 13:29 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: Dilli]
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are you working my friend ? or
have you working as a government before ? or
do you have a family who work as a government employee?

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#62670 - 01 Oct 07 13:31 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: PasukanBona]
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are you working my friend ? or
have you working as a government before ? or
do you have a family who work as a government employee?

what is your point? why does this matter?
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#62672 - 01 Oct 07 13:47 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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I have to side with kuku here. It doesn't matter what level the corruption happens on or how big or small it is. The simple fact is that this type of attitude is one of the major factors Indonesia doesn't reach it's full potential



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#62673 - 01 Oct 07 14:04 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: chewwyUK]
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dont look a problem with only one side, if we want to give an opinion please think two time, why they do that? what happen with their live? etc. he is very unwise guy, but this kind of thing didn't happen only in one departement, all departements are like that, but they can't see clearly. you'll know it very confusing if you are already being a government employee.
But I have faith that the new generatioan of government employee will be much better than mr. nanang periode...

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#62674 - 01 Oct 07 14:10 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: PasukanBona]
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Quoting: PasukanBona
But I have faith that the new generatioan of government employee will be much better than mr. nanang periode...

well, i really, really hope you're right about that, pasukanbona. indonesia's future depends on a clean and efficient bureaucracy.

these IPDN thugs who run the bureaucracy now need to be sent to concentration camps for "re-education" for a few decades.
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#62675 - 01 Oct 07 14:16 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: PasukanBona]
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If you read my post you will see that I am against all corruption as it is one of the major reasons Indonesia does not achieve what it should. You cannot excuse corruption because of something that is going on in his personal life or because it happens in all government departments.

I know it's the time of year for forgiveness but I feel an attitude of acceptance just increases the problem.
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#62677 - 01 Oct 07 14:36 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: chewwyUK]
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Not just Indo Chewwy - most of Asia.

As I mentioned some time back I am now watching the bules who thought they could circumvent the system by faiing to register their children correct at birth, and are now finding that they are having a big problem getting the passports their children would have otherwise been entitled to.

On the subject of corruption - how many bules drink and drive in Indo safe in the knowledge that almost nothing can happen to them?
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#62678 - 01 Oct 07 14:42 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Quoting: KuKuKaChu
Quoting: Capt. Mainwaring
Our we all working/living within the terms of our permits?

yes, of course. why you ask??


What about the other part of my question?
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#62692 - 01 Oct 07 20:23 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: chewwyUK]
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Quoting: chewwyUK
If you read my post you will see that I am against all corruption as it is one of the major reasons Indonesia does not achieve what it should. You cannot excuse corruption because of something that is going on in his personal life or because it happens in all government departments.

I know it's the time of year for forgiveness but I feel an attitude of acceptance just increases the problem.


Chewwy, I note I di not get a receipt for the 300K that was passed to you under the table while we both wore sheepskin coats. I hope my freind gets the job you promised!
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#62749 - 02 Oct 07 08:05 Re: BD/Vice President Calls for Firing of Bali Immigration Officer [Re: Dilli]
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sometimes our leader just saw the problem inside the country, its crazy, there is most important things that we must look after, that is INDONESIAN WORKER ABROAD (tki), they bring other country money to our country but they didn't get any protection from our government. so we can see that government only can punish their citizens if they wrong but they cannot protect their citizens rights abroad...thats mean "jago kandang" or there is no heart inside our leader?...they got money from us but they didn't protect us...

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