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#59714 - 26 Aug 07 18:32 Backbone..
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Is it really that important for a man to have one?

Are we girls expecting too much? have we watched too many movies?

Is bravery a tool of survival? or the other way around?


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#59715 - 26 Aug 07 18:50 Re: Backbone.. [Re: Choc_Cow]
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you, being in australia, in all likelihood rarely come across a male with a backbone ... in fact, western men in general are pretty spineless. all the *real* men have emigrated. to indonesia wink
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#59716 - 26 Aug 07 19:15 Re: Backbone.. [Re: Choc_Cow]
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Quoting: Chocolatea
Is it really that important for a man to have one?

Are we girls expecting too much? have we watched too many movies?

Is bravery a tool of survival? or the other way around?



A front bone is much more important - Mrs Mainwaring is quite sure of the fact.
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#59717 - 26 Aug 07 19:17 Re: Backbone.. [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Quoting: Capt. Mainwaring
Quoting: Chocolatea
Is it really that important for a man to have one?

Are we girls expecting too much? have we watched too many movies?

Is bravery a tool of survival? or the other way around?

A front bone is much more important - Mrs Mainwaring is quite sure of the fact.
i wish Mrs Mainwaring all the best in her search.
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#59718 - 26 Aug 07 19:26 Re: Backbone.. [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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How dare you? I can assure you Mrs. M gets more than enough front boning.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#59719 - 26 Aug 07 19:34 Re: Backbone.. [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Quoting: KuKuKaChu
you, being in australia, in all likelihood rarely come across a male with a backbone ... in fact, western men in general are pretty spineless. all the *real* men have emigrated. to indonesia wink


really kuk? so you think all that nonchalant air is actually a disguise?


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#59720 - 26 Aug 07 19:36 Re: Backbone.. [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Quoting: Capt. Mainwaring
How dare you? I can assure you Mrs. M gets more than enough front boning.


once every 2 years can only be enough for a whale not a human being Capt!

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#59721 - 26 Aug 07 19:58 Re: Backbone.. [Re: Choc_Cow]
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Well, since you choose to mention it - ukuaranya tulangnya adalah sesuai dengan ukuranya ikan tersebut.

She may not get it often, but I try to make it count.

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#59728 - 27 Aug 07 08:00 Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Frontbone...

I know where you bought it!


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#59753 - 27 Aug 07 11:17 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: Dilli]
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Ozzies, they have a different idea on what showing some backbone means!


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#59754 - 27 Aug 07 11:53 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: Dilli]
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Getting back to your original question Choco I would say women expect to much. These days in the "western countries" especially women say that want a guy who:

Has a good sense of humor
Is great in bed
Sensitive
Caring
Intelligent
Understanding
Can cook up a storm in the Kitchen
Will be a protector and provider


In all honesty I think women are full of shit ... they say they want all these things but then go off and bang some tattooed moron who lists his hobbies as drinking and knocking seven kinds of shit out of his wife!

The only thing you need to accept is that you cant change your man. He is what he is and you wont be able to change him so except the faults as well as all the good stuff.

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#59759 - 27 Aug 07 12:24 Re: Backbone.. [Re: Choc_Cow]
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Quoting: Chocolatea
Is it really that important for a man to have one?

Are we girls expecting too much? have we watched too many movies?

Is bravery a tool of survival? or the other way around?



Choco dear,

Yes....we have watched too many movies.
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#59762 - 27 Aug 07 12:50 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: chewwyUK]
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Quoting: chewwyUK



In all honesty I think women are full of shit ... they say they want all these things but then go off and bang some tattooed moron who lists his hobbies as drinking and knocking seven kinds of shit out of his wife!



woooooooow Mr. Chewwy you can't stereotyping women like that. Maybe what you said is true about some women bang some tattoed moron. They are full of shit, a douche.

The logic expression should be this ' smart women will want a really smart guy... sure women can say 'oh i want a guy who has sense of humor, great in bed... bla bla bla and smart!' but the fact if the women is frickin stupid, she couldn't make balance with the smart men, she will go and bang, of course someone in her level to find comfort.

Don't judge all women basically from all stupid women you had met smile
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#59765 - 27 Aug 07 12:56 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: emmajkt]
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yes emma you are right .. I didnt mean all women I am just generally speaking. The point I am making is that there are so many demands made of "modern man" that we just dont have a clue what is expected anymore
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#59767 - 27 Aug 07 13:12 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: chewwyUK]
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True, chewwy. Men and women these days don't really know what to expect from their partner anymore, because now women allowed to expect evrything as much as men.

In the other hand its just make some kind a confusion, smart women confuse on how to be equal with men and still wanna be cinderella. While the others just find that as justification for their own stupid choice, such as bang a trashy guy behind their husband's back....
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#59768 - 27 Aug 07 13:18 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: emmajkt]
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I can do trashy....
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#59770 - 27 Aug 07 13:22 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: Dilli]
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i am not surprise to hear that. Naughty guy * spanks dilli hard*
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#59774 - 27 Aug 07 13:36 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: emmajkt]
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Quoting: emmajkt
In the other hand its just make some kind a confusion, smart women confuse on how to be equal with men and still wanna be cinderella.


i like that Em.. i think there's a lil cinderella in most of us girls, doesn't matter how strong we are..

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#59778 - 27 Aug 07 13:43 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: Choc_Cow]
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Quoting: Chocolatea
Quoting: emmajkt
In the other hand its just make some kind a confusion, smart women confuse on how to be equal with men and still wanna be cinderella.


i like that Em.. i think there's a lil cinderella in most of us girls, doesn't matter how strong we are..


true choc... blame all those fairy tale books our parents gave us when we were still 'lil kids!
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#59785 - 27 Aug 07 13:58 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: emmajkt]
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I know of this guy, he sounds great in all other aspects, but i happen to find out that he hates confrontation. He wouldn't even claim back something that's rightfully his to avoid argumentation. My head screamed "Chicken!" and knowing this side of him kinda put me off.

I try to be reasonable, no one’s perfect and hey come on you don't need a tough man to be a boyfriend material, you don't live in a jungle! .. but i don't know, he still look less attractive to me doesn’t matter how hard I try to convince myself.

Chew, about too much expectation.. you're right. In fact if I have a baby and can choose the sex, I’d rather bring a baby girl to this world. As a woman I feel that my life has been easier, with less pressure, compared to that of my brothers.

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#59790 - 27 Aug 07 14:18 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: chewwyUK]
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Quoting: chewwyUK
Getting back to your original question Choco I would say women expect to much. These days in the "western countries" especially women say that want a guy who:

Has a good sense of humor
Is great in bed
Sensitive
Caring
Intelligent
Understanding
Can cook up a storm in the Kitchen
Will be a protector and provider


In all honesty I think women are full of shit ... they say they want all these things but then go off and bang some tattooed moron who lists his hobbies as drinking and knocking seven kinds of shit out of his wife!

The only thing you need to accept is that you cant change your man. He is what he is and you wont be able to change him so except the faults as well as all the good stuff.



Reading your list, they do say the perfect man is a woman (or gay), and vice versa. Relationship is about give and take, you can't expect it to be perfect, and you have to be understanding and accomodating.

So you are right Chewwy, I shall stop changing my bf too.. Now J, when are you selling your bike???????????????

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#59792 - 27 Aug 07 14:23 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: Choc_Cow]
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Unfortunately I feel the modern world is very difficult for the man. The world suddenly said women are equal and should be treated as such. However after we grew up we discovered that women "generally speaking" were happy to take all the good stuff but had no interest in any of the negative. On one hand they want to be treated equal but on the other hand they still want their man to be dominant, hold door open for them and pick up the bill. This leaves men not really sure what the hell is going on most of the time. People of my generation (30 somethings) were told one thing but then the reality wasnt the same.

Amazing how many Javanese women i met in Jakarta that still held on to the tradition that the man should pay for everything ... but dismissed the other side of that deal which is the man should be treated like a king!
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#59793 - 27 Aug 07 14:26 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: chewwyUK]
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As a side note to this topic I am pleased to report that the Mrs is wonderful and thats why i am happy to marry her. Far better to be out of the whole "figuring out whats what" game and know that a mans place is pushing a trolly
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#59794 - 27 Aug 07 14:28 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: chewwyUK]
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"man should be treated like a king" .....

Shopping Trollies spring to mind!

I would never let my concubines assume their role is anything less than to treat me like a king!

Eddy Murphy in "Coming to America " also rings a bell (the first part of the film anyway!)
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#59801 - 27 Aug 07 15:21 Re: Backbone..er Frontbone [Re: chewwyUK]
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Quoting: chewwyUK

Amazing how many Javanese women i met in Jakarta that still held on to the tradition that the man should pay for everything ... but dismissed the other side of that deal which is the man should be treated like a king!


That's a minus one about javanese or majority asian, but look, come on... honestly.. they are less bitchy and less maintenance than western women, right?

Men who deserve to be treated as a king is only if they treat women like a real queen. Most men think by, open the door for women or buy flower and a dinner, they deserve something. Men are pretty cheeky too!

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