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#57938 - 06 Aug 07 06:24 American religious conservatives
The Great Gonzo Offline
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Actually, this is not necessarily about Americans... although they are a religious bunch with about 45% of them thinking the earth is no more than 10000 years old.

Has anyone seen any of the documentaries created by Richard Dawkins such as The Root of All Evil - The God Delusion, and The Virus of Faith?

basically he is an English scientist and atheist who is taking a shot at the world's super power which is vastly populated by and lead by religious nut-bars. Of course he takes on other religious nutbars too, not just the American ones... but the latter is a big focus.

If you have a decent internet connection (which is unlikely in Indonesia)... you can watch them online at tvlinks.... http://tv-links.co.uk/listings/9/6169
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#57939 - 06 Aug 07 06:46 Re: American religious conservatives [Re: The Great Gonzo]
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On a slightly different subject I am achieving pretty much broadband speeds using GPRS , costs me about twenty quid a month unlimited including a phone service .

There is the possibilty to provide prepaid SIMS if anyone has an interest.

Returning to topic - yes I have seen these documentaries and found them quite revealing.
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#57940 - 06 Aug 07 07:08 Re: American religious conservatives [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Funny you should say that, but even more dangerously depraved than America's self-righteous religious radicals are murderous Australian feline fanciers, and New Zealand diplomats who dabble in doobies.

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Man kills parents for dead cat remarks
August 3, 2007 - 3:23PM
A man who specialised in family conflict killed his parents with an axe when they laughed at him over the death of his cat.

Stephen Alexander Harper, 44, pleaded guilty in the Supreme Court in Launceston today to the murders of Roderick Alexander Harper, 88, and Helene May Harper, 77.

Prosecutor John Ransom told the court that Stephen Alexander Harper, 44, of east Launceston, had been living in a flat behind his parents' home when he committed the crimes on August 30 last year.

Mr Ransom said Harper, a counsellor who specialised in family conflict, had snapped when his parents laughed at him over the death of his cat, and had repeatedly hit them both over the head with an axe.

The case has been adjourned until the end of August for sentencing.


Meeeeong. So much for the psychology of Hello Kitty.

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New Zealand MP promises he never smoked dope as ambassador
5:00AM Monday August 06, 2007

National leader John Key has accepted MP Tim Groser's word that he did not smoke cannabis in Jakarta while he was New Zealand ambassador there in the mid-90s.

Mr Groser has admitted smoking cannabis, but rejects claims by his former wife, Milda Emza, that he smoked on the job. He says her claims have to be seen in the context of a failed marriage.

Mr Groser yesterday issued a public apology to her for comments he made to Paul Holmes that were reprinted in the Holmes Diary in the Herald on Sunday.

"I will take the comments of my angry and hurt ex-wife on the chin," Mr Groser's statement said. "They were a result of my ill-judged recently published comments, for which I unreservedly apologise to her."

Holmes wrote last month: "Tim's marriages have not been successful, as he frankly admits. He's had rather a tough time over the years. He says he has reached the point now that if he is attracted to a woman he has to assume there is something seriously wrong with her."

Mr Groser's former wife wrote to National Party president Judy Kirk with her allegations, the Sunday News reported. She said a friend brought cannabis for him some time before they were married in 1996.

Mr Groser said that in rejecting the story, "I want to be very clear that I make no claim to having led the full life of a choirboy when I was younger. I have made mistakes that I have learned from and which I regret.

"I admit to having used cannabis in my earlier life and do not want to hide that fact. However, I repeat that these specific allegations published [yesterday] are untrue."

Mr Groser became a Muslim to marry his second wife, an Indonesian Muslim. They have joint custody of a 10-year-old daughter.

He was ambassador to Jakarta from May 1994 until 1997 and resigned from a job as ambassador to the World Trade Organisation to stand for National in 2005. He has been fast-tracked to a caucus ranking of No 15, and is expected to be Trade Minister if National leads the next Government.

If the allegations were true, they would almost certainly mean the end of his political career. It would be considered gross misconduct of a senior public servant, regardless of Indonesia's strict drug laws.

Mr Key said he had asked Mr Groser directly about the story. "He has denied that there is any truth to those, and I accept him at his word."

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Perhaps Piss Salon can enlighten us on whether Kiwis play 10-pointer bong hits in their Jakarta embassy?

Gonzo, if you enjoy Richard Dawkins' books and seminars, you might enjoy seeing him get the South Park treatment:

You can watch it online at http://allsp.com/ (choose Season 10 and scroll to "Go God Go"). Or can be downloaded via here: http://mrtwig.net/ep/1012.html

Dawkins seemed a bit miffed by the whole thing:
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Finally, I have repeatedly been asked what I think of South Park and of Ted Haggardís downfall. I wonít say much about either. Schadenfreude is not an appealing emotion so, on Haggard, Iíll say only that if it wasnít for people of his religious persuasion, people of his sexual persuasion would be free to do what they like without shame and without fear of exposure. I share neither his religious nor his sexual persuasion (thatís an understatement), and Iím buggered if I like being portrayed as a cartoon character buggering a bald transvestite. I wouldnít have minded so much if only it had been in the service of some serious point, but if there was a serious point in there I couldnít discern it. And then thereís the matter of the accent they gave me. Now, if only I could be offered a cameo role in The Simpsons, I could show that actor how to do a real British accent.

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#57942 - 06 Aug 07 07:41 Re: American religious conservatives [Re: kenyeung]
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His eyes are too close together so he must be lying!


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#57947 - 06 Aug 07 08:48 Re: American religious conservatives [Re: Dilli]
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He did marry Lalla Ward, who was Romana from Doctor Who. Which Dr Who assistant did other readers want to shag?






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#57950 - 06 Aug 07 09:31 Re: American religious conservatives [Re: kenyeung]
The Great Gonzo Offline
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Hey Mr. Yeung, my Toronto real estate agent, the link I posted up there, http://tv-links.co.uk/listings/4 , even has Team America - World Police on there... but I wonder if most connections in Jakarta would be fast enough to allow for streaming video?

I caught that South Park episode... yeah, that was pretty dumb.
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#57977 - 07 Aug 07 01:59 Re: American religious conservatives [Re: The Great Gonzo]
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Captain, if you thought Dawkin's documentaries were revealing, you should check out this documentary called '100 reasons why evolution is stupid'.... by a preacher from Pensacola, Florida.
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/9/5566
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#57981 - 07 Aug 07 07:54 Re: American religious conservatives [Re: The Great Gonzo]
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Tell me about it!! They are religious aren't they. Religion can be dangerous and full of shit. They always have this stupid prejudism, people who stick too much in to religion should get a life and step out their comfort zone. See things from different side.

basically that's what bring america down, the world getting more and more dislike 'em. With all the super perfect image they thought, they are so great. I'm not trying to be anti-american ( infact my bf is one of 'em) Its just there's no such thing as 'american dream' the great country, if there is something i would say America 'Hypocrite nation'
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