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#45669 - 21 Feb 07 06:07 Love they neighbour
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Police called to a Long Island man's house discovered the mummified remains of the resident, dead for more than a year, sitting in front of a blaring television set.

The 70-year-old Hampton Bays, New York, resident, identified as Vincenzo Ricardo, appeared to have died of natural causes. Police said on Saturday his body was discovered on Thursday when they were called to the house over a burst water pipe.

"You could see his face. He still had hair on his head," Newsday quoted morgue assistant Jeff Bacchus as saying. The home's low humidity had preserved the body.

Officials could not explain why the electricity had not been turned off, considering Ricardo had not been heard from since December 2005.

Neighbors said when they had not seen Ricardo, who was diabetic and had been blind for years, they assumed he was in the hospital or a long-term care facility.
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#45696 - 21 Feb 07 12:01 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Piss Salon]
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Not our Riccardo I trust?
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#45706 - 21 Feb 07 13:46 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Roy's Hair]
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Haha. Missed that. I don't think its him. Maybe in a few more years ...
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#45709 - 21 Feb 07 14:04 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Piss Salon]
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no he's not diabetic.
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#45712 - 21 Feb 07 15:15 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Roy's Hair]
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Right, in keeping with the 'Love they Neighbor' thread, I wish to explore the ongoing hostilities/anger/resentment/loathing/disdain between those mighty Indonesia and the 'little red dot' that is Singapore.

Questions that should be addressed include, sources of hatred/disdain and who would kick arse in a military confrontation between the two.

This should be fun.

Remember, Indonesia currently has eight warships on its sea boundary with Singers. This should be fun.

Some background.

Indonesian sabre rattling
intensifies against S'pore

JAKARTA, The Point

Sabre rattling in the House of Representatives against Singapore intensified yesterday with at least one legislator threatening the tiny neighboring state's ambassador with expulsion for daring to suggest that Indonesia's ban on sand exports to both Singapore and China had no grounds.
The calls come at the same time as resentment against Singapore's holdings in now lucrative state-owned telecommunications firms Telkom and Indosat again flare, with Singapore Technologies Telemedia, which owns 41% share in Indosat, saying it has no plans to sell its shares back to Indonesia, despite another legislator saying the company must be reclaimed by the government.
Dedy Djamaluddin Malik, a legislator from Commission I overseeing foreign affairs, said the government must take firm action against the city-state, which he claimed had dared to influence international opinion that the nations needed to review border areas after Singapore had extended their territory using Indonesian sand.
“They should be warned for their rude action. Our government should be stern in handling the sort of action taken by other countries. If it is necessary, the government can raise threats to expel its ambassador in Jakarta,” the National Mandate Party (PAN) legislator said.
He also expressed disappointment that the Riau Islands administration and the central government had turned a blind eye towards illegal, as well as legal, sand exports to Singapore for its reclamation program.
His claims have been rejected by Singaporean officials and dismissed by informed commentators, with critics saying such comments were intended to whip up nationalistic and populist sentiment in Indonesia.
Nevertheless, Indonesia has sent eight warships to the sea border with Singapore to ensure illegal sand exports do not continue.
The nation fears sand mining is contributing to the loss of Indonesia's strategic outer islands that mark its territory, while Singapore's borders grow.
Singaporean politicians, who point out that sand does not come from the outer islands at all and that the sand is mainly used in cement for the construction industry, believe the issue likely relates to Indonesia's anger at a failure to establish an extradition with the city/state, primarily to pave the way for the return on numerous Indonesian tycoons who fled Indonesia in the wake of the economic crisis.
However, Singapore's Foreign Minister George Yeo, as reported by the Sydney Morning Herald, said the link was counter-productive, saying shortcomings in Indonesia's judicial system were hampering the extradition treaty because Singaporean courts would consider the conduct of the resulting trials in Indonesia.
"Which means that, inevitably, a judge in Singapore would have to examine the conduct of [Indonesian] police and their judges," he said diplomatically.
Both law enforcement agencies are often criticized as being notoriously corrupt.
Malik continued, accusing Singapore of “economic colonization”.
Meanwhile, House speaker Agung Laksono, from the majority Golkar Party, said Indonesia's decision to declare an export ban was the country's prerogative and “no other countries can intervene our decision.”
In comments in apparent response to comments from Singapore that it would find sand elsewhere, Laksono said Singapore could go ahead, but he also demanded the government take firm measures if Singapore continued to ignore Indonesia's concerns over any loss of its territory.
The dispute is the latest in a series of conflicts Indonesia has had with its closest neighbors, including Australia and Malaysia.
Public protests are likely outside the Singaporean Embassy today. (FEB)
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#45725 - 22 Feb 07 00:24 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Piss Salon]
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The whole sand issue is orchestrated for the Indo's to bully Sg into the extradition treaty, which would expose Sg's banking system, which in turn, is propped up by dirty Indo and Chinese money.

Sg's defence force is far larger, and more sophisticated than the TNI will ever be, Sg would flatten Jak-vegas before the Indo's woke up...
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#45729 - 22 Feb 07 00:46 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: naga]
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Another childish reaction, whipping up nationalist fervor and turning a trivial issue into an overblown 'cause celebre' to divert attention away from so many other real problems and failings.
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#45759 - 22 Feb 07 06:25 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: riccardo]
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Indeed, throwing their toys out of the cot.
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#45773 - 22 Feb 07 11:00 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Piss Salon]
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They do like to spit their dummies out. This sand selling is a serious environmental problem though. Apparently Singapore buys a wedge o sand equivalent to a 50m deep beach stretching from Jakarta to Surabaya every year. A fight against Singapore is about the only time I'll side with the Indos.
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#45774 - 22 Feb 07 11:30 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Roy's Hair]
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If it came to a fight, who'd win? The denizens of the 4 floors or the blok?


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#45810 - 23 Feb 07 01:03 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Polisi Tidur]
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We will fight them at the Blok ('coz the beaches have gone)
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#45831 - 23 Feb 07 04:05 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Roy's Hair]
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"This sand selling is a serious environmental problem though."

Bullshit, it's a legitimate commercial contract between two willing parties..

who's fault is it really? the purchaser or the seller?

Indonesia has so much spare land it doesn't know what to do with it, let alone manage it properly...after all, it's ok to swamp KL and Sg every year with posionous gas from smoke from illegal logging every year and complain they can't do anything about it..

Sg and Malaysia don't ask Indo to foot the medical bills for the asthma problems it causes or for the air traffic disruptions?
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#45833 - 23 Feb 07 04:09 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: naga]
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So... the compensation for this air traffic disruption is by expanding thy boundaries?

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#45922 - 24 Feb 07 01:10 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Just]
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not comparable issues
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#45926 - 24 Feb 07 01:16 Re: Love they neighbour [Re: Roy's Hair]
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Although perhaps they are in some ways. The same mercenaries who are cutting all the trees down are also stealing the sand (destroying local fishermen's livelihoods, causing people's houses to subside and whole islands to disappear). "Legitimate commercial contract" is rather a tenuous concept in this country. Just ask local communities what input they have into such decisions.One first needs a legitimate social contract i.e.the protections that real democracy affords. This is still a feudal country after all.I say sod Singapore in their bid to expand the boundries of their kindergarten nanny state.


Edited by Roy's hair (24 Feb 07 01:19)
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