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#38854 - 18 Dec 06 21:23 Single Parents
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Elsewhere on the site there was a short discussion on single mothers. People pointed out that there was negative social pressure, that women get the blame (irrespective of the real reason), and that single mothers were seen as “easy and desperate sexually and financially”.

I don’t know enough to agree or disagree about the Indonesian situation.

However, I can tell you a few things about the situation on the West:

In Australia marriage rates steadily decline, and divorce in on the increase. 17% of marriages end in the first 5 years, and further 26% end in the next 5 years.

Between 1986 and 1996 the number of single parent families in Australia
increased by about 50 per cent, from 311,800 to 467,200, almost 10 per cent of all
families. A large majority of these are female-parent families with dependants.


Single mothers here are endemic. It is a virtual career option for some girls, because the state pays. A girl who doesn’t want to work simply has a baby and the state provides the rest. The statistics are staggering:

26.6 per cent of all births in Australia in 1996 were to single mothers
66% of single mothers in Australia live on government welfare.
60% of single mothers in Australia have no job at all.
13% of single mothers in Australia earned more than $200 a week from a paying job.

So, a vast number of women with children simply get paid by the government (via my taxes) to sit at home with their new plaything – a baby!!!



Fast forward 15 years:

We now have a nuclear family consisting of mother and 3-4 children (all with different fathers) who simply have never seen work. The children have never seen anyone go off to work at 7am. They have never worked for anything. They don’t understand the WORK-REWARD relationship. They think the government should give everything for free.

But now these kids have become mini adults. They want things that government aid doesn’t provide, like Ipods and cars. So they start stealing and dealing:

A staggering 88% of joyriding (stealing cars) is committed by boys aged under 17 who have no male in the household.

A boy with no male in the household is 5 times more likely to suicide.

Perhaps Indonesia has it right and the West is wrong…….

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#38914 - 19 Dec 06 09:00 Re: Single Parents [Re: Polar Bear]
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All I can say is: the situation in Indonesia are varies, but one thing for sure we didn't get the support from our bloody government! We're lucky if the ex husband or partner are genuine enough to pay the kids welfare! But in my case, it's highly unlikely! Then again, I don't need a single rupiah from him! Tee hee!

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#38917 - 19 Dec 06 09:09 Re: Single Parents [Re: Just]
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In the West most men walk away and leave the "support" to the government. Who then raise taxes to pay for it.

I dont have children, but I am forced to pay my share of every other "dick happy" guy who has kids and walks off.

Children are expensive. Some men just dump the expense on others....

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#38918 - 19 Dec 06 09:11 Re: Single Parents [Re: Polar Bear]
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Hmmmm.... in that case I want to be an Australian citizen!

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#38924 - 19 Dec 06 09:49 Re: Single Parents [Re: Just]
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I DONT!!!! smile
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#38985 - 20 Dec 06 03:12 Re: Single Parents [Re: Shesca]
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Been Australian is great. High taxes and good social benefits.

MOst important of all... Easy and lazy lifestyle....


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#38987 - 20 Dec 06 03:31 Re: Single Parents [Re: rainman]
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so Shesca, what do you want to be?
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#38991 - 20 Dec 06 04:47 Re: Single Parents [Re: jok]
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Easy and lazy lifestyle....APA ...oh yeah it is for those on government welfare but for the rest of us who pay high taxes not so easy not so lazy
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#38993 - 20 Dec 06 04:53 Re: Single Parents [Re: jok]
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I love Indonesia and I want to be Indonesian forever smile
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#38994 - 20 Dec 06 05:05 Re: Single Parents [Re: Shesca]
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Quoting: Shesca
I love Indonesia and I want to be Indonesian forever smile


me too, whatever happeng I love Indonesia yay
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#38995 - 20 Dec 06 05:15 Re: Single Parents [Re: Jokie Jokie Girl]
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Hey we all love Indonesia, thats why i took a small part of it when i left there
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#39045 - 21 Dec 06 06:23 Re: Single Parents [Re: Polar Bear]
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You forgot to mention another statistic.

90% of Australian males who skip out on welfare support for children they fathered live in Indonesia.

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#39049 - 21 Dec 06 07:08 Re: Single Parents [Re: No Eye Dear]
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Quoting: No Eye Dear
You forgot to mention another statistic.

90% of Australian males who skip out on welfare support for children they fathered live in Indonesia.



I agree..... They are assholes.....



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#39055 - 21 Dec 06 07:51 Re: Single Parents [Re: Polar Bear]
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Who are? Australians? Which part? All of them?

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#39057 - 21 Dec 06 07:58 Re: Single Parents [Re: No Eye Dear]
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Quoting: No Eye Dear
You forgot to mention another statistic.

90% of Australian males who skip out on welfare support for children they fathered live in Indonesia.


and one of them is you wink
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#39059 - 21 Dec 06 08:05 Re: Single Parents [Re: Just]
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Quoting: Just
Who are? Australians? Which part? All of them?


no need to be sock, just wink
not at all, I have an Australiant client that working in Indo, he told too much about his families that still living in Ausie and also his stories about the Indo gals, then from his stories, I could take the point that he's a very..very nice person as a husband and of course as a daddy with three children smile

is that you meant, right?
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#39060 - 21 Dec 06 08:08 Re: Single Parents [Re: Jokie Jokie Girl]
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I have no children at all.

I want to adopt all you girls and keep you safe and well fed, and dessed in sexy clothes, and high heels......

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#39063 - 21 Dec 06 08:12 Re: Single Parents [Re: Polar Bear]
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Quoting: Polar Bear
I have no children at all.

I want to adopt all you girls and keep you safe and well fed, and dessed in sexy clothes, and high heels......


hmmmm...how come you just stop the sentence there??...
confused
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#39064 - 21 Dec 06 08:18 Re: Single Parents [Re: Polar Bear]
Jokie Jokie Girl Offline
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Quoting: Polar Bear
I have no children at all.

I want to adopt all you girls and keep you safe and well fed, and dessed in sexy clothes, and high heels......


PB, in Indo we'll call you "OM SENANG, OM TANGGUNG" laugh
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#39210 - 22 Dec 06 09:55 Re: Single Parents [Re: Jokie Jokie Girl]
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wow australia is that great,so many single woman
any chance for a 62 years old chinese man from singapore
to get one, make a baby, let the goverment feed the kid
at the meantime i have left my DNA in australia. its a
good deal.
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