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#34920 - 23 Oct 06 05:35 Europe vs. iSlam
riccardo Offline

Registered: 12 Oct 05
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Last year when the Islamic riots were raging in France, a seemingly endless parade of apologists told us over and over that the violence was due to economic oppression and alienation, and had nothing to do with radical Islam. Those who labeled it a “French Intifada” were mocked and derided as “Islamophobes.”

What will the apologists say this year when the riots repeat, as even French police have stopped denying the nature of the enemy? A horrifying statistic shows how bad it’s gotten: 112 cars are burning every day --- as we speak!,,3-2414175,00.html

FLAMES lick around a burning car on a tiny telephone screen. Omar, a veteran of France’s suburban riots, replayed the sequence with pride. “It was great. We did lots of them and then we went out and torched more the next day.”

Omar, whose parents immigrated from Mali, was savouring memories of the revolt that erupted 12 months ago from his home, “We’re ready for it again. In fact it hasn’t stopped,” he added.

Before next week’s anniversary of the Clichy riots, the violence and despair in these impoverished iSlam ghettoes are again coming to the fore. Despite a promised renaissance, little has changed, and the lid could blow at any moment.

The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September. Some police talk of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.

“The thing that has changed over the past month is that they now want to kill us,” said Bruno Beschizza, the leader of Synergie, a union to which 40 per cent of officers belong. Action Police, a hardline union, said: “We are in a civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists.”
Just here proffering my pearls to swine, my throat to wolves and my trousers to the flagpole.

#34921 - 23 Oct 06 05:43 Re: Europe vs. iSlam [Re: riccardo]
riccardo Offline

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Loc: Jakarta
This is from an email I got today from a friend in France after he read the story above in yesterday's Times:


Well, let's see how the French deal with the Islamic Occupation.

People, it is time to start using the language the enemy understands. They need to realise that we see them as "Occupiers" too, not immigrants. Immigrants assimilate. Occupiers burn villages when they don't get what they want. It's that fucking simple, people.

The argument that "we can't get jobs" isn't bogus, it's actually correct.

Yeah, lil' Ahmed, you're right. You can't get a job. You'll never get a fucking job in a functioning technological state, Ahmed. You're unemployable, you stupid little shitbag. Know why? For the same reason your "palestinian" heroes will never have a state:

(1) Your parents cocked up your upbringing by filling your little muslim head with all kinds of shite about entitlement, and a colossal superiority complex over Blacks, women, gays, Jews, etc.

(2) Working, like managing a state, is too menial and unglamorous for you. It's dirty, often thankless and unglorious WORK. You have no interest in working - the "intifada" is simply too much fun.

Cheers, C. Crusader

#34933 - 24 Oct 06 04:22 Re: Europe vs. iSlam [Re: riccardo]
riccardo Offline

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Loc: Jakarta
And here's another article, with mention of the UK's "no more jilbabs" battle royale.


French police face 'permanent intifada'

By JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 23, 7:34 AM WIB

EPINAY-SUR-SEINE, France - On a routine call, three unwitting police officers fell into a trap. A car darted out to block their path, and dozens of hooded youths surged out of the darkness to attack them with stones, bats and tear gas before fleeing. One officer was hospitalized.

The recent ambush was emblematic of what some officers say has become a near-perpetual and increasingly violent conflict between police and gangs in tough, largely immigrant French neighborhoods that were the scene of a three-week paroxysm of rioting last year.

One small police union claims officers are facing a "permanent intifada." Police injuries have risen in the year since the wave of violence.

National police reported 2,458 cases of violence against officers in the first six months of the year, on pace to top the 4,246 cases recorded for all of 2005 and the 3,842 in 2004. Firefighters and rescue workers have also been targeted — and some now receive police escorts in such areas.

On Sunday, a band of about 30 youths, some wearing masks, forced passengers out of a bus in a southern Paris suburb in broad daylight Sunday, set it on fire, then stoned firefighters who came to the rescue, police said. No one was injured. Two people were arrested, one of them a 13-year-old, according to LCI television.

More broadly, worsening violence in France testifies to Europe's growing struggle to integrate its ethnic minorities. Some mainstream European politicians — adopting positions previously confined largely to far-right fringes — are suggesting that the minorities themselves are not doing enough to adapt to European mores.

In Britain, former Foreign Minister Jack Straw, now leader of the House of Commons, this month touched off a wide debate about the rights and obligations of Muslims by saying that he asks devout Muslim women to remove their veils when visiting his office. Prime Minister Tony Blair said Islam needs to modernize.

In France, a high school teacher received death threats, forcing him into hiding, after he wrote a newspaper editorial in September saying Muslim fundamentalists are trying to muzzle Europe's democratic liberties.

Ethnic integration and violence against police are both becoming issues in the campaign for the French presidency. Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, the leading contender on the right, said this month that those who do not love France do not have to stay, echoing a longtime slogan of the extreme-right National Front: "France, love it or leave it."

Michel Thooris, head of the small Action Police union, claims that the new violence is taking on an Islamic fundamentalist tinge.

"Many youths, many arsonists, many vandals behind the violence do it to cries of 'Allah Akbar' (God is Great) when our police cars are stoned," he said in an interview.

Larger, more mainstream police unions sharply disagree that the suburban unrest has any religious basis. However, they do say that some youth gangs no longer seem content to throw stones or torch cars and instead appear determined to hurt police officers — or worse.

"First, it was a rock here or there. Then it was rocks by the dozen. Now, they're leading operations of an almost military sort to trap us," said Loic Lecouplier, a police union official in the Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris. "These are acts of war."

Sadio Sylla, an unemployed mother of three, watched the Oct. 13 ambush of the police patrol in Epinay-sur-Seine from her second-floor window. She, other witnesses and police union officials said up to 50 masked youths dashed out from behind trees.

One of the three officers needed 30 stitches to his face after being struck by a rock. On Saturday, five people were placed under investigation for attempted murder in relation to the ambush.

The attack was one of at least four gang beatings of police in Parisian suburbs since Sept. 19. Early Friday, a dozen hooded people hurled stones, iron bars and bottles filled with gasoline at two police vehicles in Aulnay-sous-Bois, a flashpoint of last year's riots, said Guillaume Godet, a city hall spokesman. One officer required three stitches to his head.

Minority youths have long complained that police are more heavy-handed in their dealings with them than with whites, demanding their papers and frisking them for no apparent reason.

Such perceived ill-treatment fuels feelings of injustice, as do the difficulties that many youths from immigrant families have finding work.

Distrust and tension thrive. Rumors have flown around some housing projects that police are hoping to use the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which ends this week, to round up known troublemakers, on the basis that fasting all day will have made the youths weaker and easier to catch.

Police say that suggestion is ludicrous. However, they are on guard ahead of the first anniversary this week of last year's riots. That violence began after two youths who thought police were chasing them hid in a power substation and were electrocuted to death.

Police unions suspect that the recent attacks may be an attempt to spark new riots.

"We are getting the impression these youths want a 'remake' of what happened last year," said Fred Lagache, national secretary of the Alliance police union. "The youths are trying to cause a police error to justify chaos."
Just here proffering my pearls to swine, my throat to wolves and my trousers to the flagpole.

#34950 - 25 Oct 06 07:36 Re: Europe vs. iSlam [Re: riccardo]
riccardo Offline

Registered: 12 Oct 05
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Loc: Jakarta


Protection for Italy veil row MP
By Christian Fraser
BBC News, Rome

An Italian politician will be given police protection following comments she made about the Islamic veil on television.

The MP, Daniela Santanche, from the right wing National Alliance, said the veil was not required by the Koran.

She was labelled an infidel by an imam appearing on the same programme and there are now fears for her safety.

Daniela Santanche recently published a critical book on living conditions for Muslim women called Woman Denied.

She is known for her forthright comments.

'Ignorant talk'

On Friday she appeared on a chat show on Sky Italia for a heated debate which quickly spiralled out of control.

"A veil," she said, "is never a symbol of liberty and it is not required in religion".

There is a law which forbids - for reason of terrorism - people to go around with masks on
Daniela Santanche

"And in our country," she went on, "there is a law which forbids - for reason of terrorism - people to go around with masks on".

Her comments brought a furious response from the imam who appeared alongside her.

Ali Abu Shwaima, from a mosque near Milan, called her an infidel.

"I will not allow the ignorant to talk about Islam," he said. "The veil is an obligation required by God."

Ms Santanche has now been offered police protection for her own safety.

But she is not the only one who has expressed reservations about the wearing of the veil.

Last week Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi said he was opposed to women covering their faces.

"We are not talking about the way people dress," he said, "but about whether or not they are hiding themselves".

There has also been support from Ms Santanche's political opponents.

The left-wing minister for equality, Barbara Pollastrini, said everyone was free to express their opinions.

"We are in a democratic country," she said. "Imam Shwaima must know that in our country, threats, intimidation and condemnations are not acceptable."
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Published: 2006/10/23 18:14:42 GMT



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