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#33371 - 27 Jun 06 21:42 "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
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In the Indonesian context and the peculiar Indonesian use of the phrase "free sex", I am often confused. Just when I think I understand it, I hear things that just do not really seem to make sense. Or do they?
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This is from http://www.bkkbn.go.id/ (The Government of Indonesia's Family Planning office)

Head of the local Health Office in Tangerang, Nuriman Mahjudin, stated on Wednesday (8/10/05) that most of the people living with HIV/AIDS in the region have been infected with the virus through injected drug use and by free sex...
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And this is from International Youth Day 2005, and a group of Indonesian students came up with this:

The youths mentioned alcoholism as one of the most significant issues, with unemployment, gambling, deviant behavior such as free sex, pornography, early-age marriage, gossiping, laziness and disrespectfulness to parents, as well as stealing, to complete the youth problem list.

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Now let me get this straight, are they saying free sex is "deviant" and a "cause of AIDS"? What about sex that people pay for, isn't that much worse -- ya know with all the multiple partners and stuff? Or do these well-meaning youths and the Indonesian government see prostitution as a normal phenomenon in which all sex must be paid for in some fashion? Is it only "deviant" when no money changes hands?

Somebody please help me out here.
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#33372 - 28 Jun 06 07:11 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
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I have also come across this “free sex” term, usually touted by my older students. It confused me at the time, but the way that I think they understood it was this.

Any sex outside of marriage is free sex, therefore is bad.
Any sex that their elders choose to look down upon is free sex.
Western media is constantly portraying free sex.
Free sex that results in pregnancy is always hushed up with a quick marriage
(Bandung – large Muslim population, obviously)

A lot of these students would question me about how westerners could sleep with different partners, and you could really see them struggling to comprehend the idea that not all westerners are out slapping every ass that passes. Too much T.V. I would tell them, try this book instead I would say…very few of them ever read my suggestions, and I never had any feedback.

My personal opinion – there is no so such thing as free sex. Yeah maybe you don’t have to pay with money (never have, never will), but the woman that I have sex with, I have committed to, and in that I will pay for life! This relates to the English understanding of “Free sex”, I cant say that I understand the Indonesian viewpoint that was hurriedly explained to me or indeed the motivation to maintain that particular viewpoint, but obviously it’s serving somebody’s purpose very well.
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#33373 - 29 Jun 06 14:11 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Piss Salon Offline
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All 'sex' is good sex but 'free sex' is better.

I would classify 'free sex' as 'casual sex' and, in my classification system, 'free sex' as wanking on the couch as domestic help clean the floor on all fours.
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#33374 - 30 Jun 06 03:44 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
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Quote:
Originally posted by Piss Salon:
All 'sex' is good sex but 'free sex' is better.

I would classify 'free sex' as 'casual sex' and, in my classification system, 'free sex' as wanking on the couch as domestic help clean the floor on all fours.
laugh lol
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#33375 - 30 Jun 06 07:33 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
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smile smile smile smile smile

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#33376 - 30 Jun 06 14:06 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Piss Salon Offline
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Riccardo posted: "Head of the local Health Office in Tangerang, Nuriman Mahjudin, stated on Wednesday (8/10/05) that most of the people living with HIV/AIDS in the region have been infected with the virus through injected drug use and by free sex..."

Where does this leave wives infected by husbands using the services of male and female sex workers?

I have often roamed the banks of Kali Malang at night drinking warm beer and questionable melted ice in the cheap Warung Minum and observing the sex industry. Not a condom to be seen. And all this, 500 meters from the VP's mansion, across the road from the Commission Against Violence Against Women (bad translation) and, of course, directly next to a police post.
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#33377 - 30 Jun 06 17:11 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Dilli Offline
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Quote:

I have often roamed the banks of Kali Malang at night drinking warm beer and questionable melted ice in the cheap Warung Minum and observing the sex industry. [/QB]
I prefer to drink in a bar, have a few, go home for something to eat and then sleep!

The prospect of being a Warung Voyeur leaves me somewhat mystified. I mean why?
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#33378 - 30 Jun 06 18:13 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Piss Salon Offline
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Why not? Interested is all. See how the other half live and all that. Poor bitches. I really recommend the walk from Victims of Violence against Women Commission (check that but I think it’s the women’s branch of KOMNAS-HAM) down to the bridge over Kali Malang on Jl Sudirman. You will find a weird brothel made out of bamboo actually under the bridge and a couple of bars where you will be welcomed with little hassle. The juxtaposition of it all trips me out.
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#33379 - 30 Jun 06 22:38 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Dilli Offline
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Hmmm.
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#33380 - 03 Jul 06 15:56 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Piss Salon Offline
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Hey Meestah, why you Hmmm me? You like church songs?
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#33381 - 03 Jul 06 16:25 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Polar Bear Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Piss Salon:
I have often roamed the banks of Kali Malang at night drinking warm beer and questionable melted ice in the cheap Warung Minum and observing the sex industry.
Did you see a white Ass bouncing up and down?

That was me!

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#33382 - 03 Jul 06 19:14 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Macan Tutul Offline
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laugh laugh laugh laugh
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#33383 - 03 Jul 06 19:44 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
adi Offline
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Ajarin dong...........

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#33384 - 03 Jul 06 19:56 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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hi adi ... ajarin apa?? yang jelas donk!
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#33385 - 03 Jul 06 20:11 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Dilli Offline
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Hey Piss, I think that people who get their jollies off watching others "getting after it" have a problem!
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#33386 - 03 Jul 06 21:28 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Polar Bear Offline
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
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Getting after it?

Getting after it?

The sparks in the night are off my claws as I scramble after it.

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#33387 - 03 Jul 06 21:29 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Polar Bear Offline
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
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MT, give you 500,000 if you wear that tight skirt again honey.

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#33388 - 03 Jul 06 21:30 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Polar Bear Offline
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
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BOLLOCKS

I dont believe this. I havent worn my army Mess Kit for a few months and the bugger has shrunk.

Too tight.... And I have a dinner Saturday night...

BOLLOCKS

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#33389 - 03 Jul 06 21:40 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10790
Loc: Centre of the Universe
oh yeah, so you really sure that it's shrunk? are you sure something else hasn't expanded??
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#33390 - 03 Jul 06 21:49 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Polar Bear Offline
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
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I just don't understand. it fitted fine 6 months ago. I have 5 days to lose 2 inches....

HELP

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#33391 - 03 Jul 06 21:53 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10790
Loc: Centre of the Universe
a water-only diet will do the trick.
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#33392 - 03 Jul 06 22:03 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
D'ruby Offline
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Registered: 13 Feb 06
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and just fruits...
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#33393 - 03 Jul 06 22:05 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
D'ruby Offline
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can bule get puasa too?
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#33394 - 03 Jul 06 22:22 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
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bisa dong. but what's the use of it? puasa for 12 hours during the day, then stuff yourself stupid at night. it's really quite unhealthy.
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#33395 - 03 Jul 06 22:39 Re: "Free Sex" -- What the HECK does it mean??
Piss Salon Offline
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Registered: 27 Jun 06
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Loc: Jakpus
No need to get in a pickle dill. I wouldn’t watch the unwashed shag in a filthy tent on the banks of a river of shit if you paid me.

Do you watch porn? Isn’t that “watching others "getting after it"”?
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