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#31600 - 27 Sep 06 19:10 Indo firing squad misses?
Piss Salon Offline
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Registered: 27 Jun 06
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By my reckoning, based on what the police are saying, then at least four Indonesian “marksmen” missed a blindfolded, stationary target standing just meters from them.

Work it out; if six of 12 shooters are given bullets then one would expect the poor fucker to have at least six holes in him. One of the murdered men was shot four times and the other two murder victims had just five holes.

Something doesn’t gel and as I say the most basic explanation is that Indonesia’s finest couldn’t hit a barnyard door. Or the Indonesian military wanted to save bullets to hand out to other warring factions within the archipelago to justify their own wretched existence.

P.S. Jakarta Post, please wake up and explain the shit that you write in your stories.

Police deny torturing executed Poso convict

Yemris Fointuna, The Jakarta Post, Maumere

The National Police denied Tuesday accusations that one of three Catholic convicts, Dominggus da Silva, was tortured before being executed last week.

The family of da Silva, who was executed for inciting violence against Muslims in Central Sulawesi in 2000, insisted that his body be exhumed for a second time to check for evidence of torture.

Da Silva's adoptive father Anselmus da Silva said that the autopsy report would be used by the family and his lawyers to file a lawsuit over the execution with the International Court of Justice.

"We're convinced that the execution was not done in accordance with procedures, which explains why the executors buried the body immediately without informing his family members," Anselmus said.

However, the International Court of Justice does not accept reports and complaints from individuals.

However, National Police spokesman Insp. Gen. Paulus Purwoko said that the family's remarks were made based on information from people claiming to have seen the body, who told them that it appeared to have four bullet wounds, a stab wound and some bruises and broken bones.

Da Silva was originally buried in Palu, Central Sulawesi, where the three convicts were executed, before his body was exhumed by his lawyers and church members. The body was bathed, a wake was held at the local Catholic Church and the body was then sent back to da Silva's hometown in Maumere, West Nusa Tenggara, for a proper burial.

"The execution was conducted in line with technical instructions from the National Police Headquarters," Purwoko said as quoted by Detikcom online news agency.

He said that there were a dozen shooters for each of the three condemned men, half of whom were given blanks without their knowledge.

Anselmus said that the decision to exhume da Silva's body had been made in consultation with da Silva's lawyer Roy Rening and Petrus Salestinus.

"The two lawyers have given their approval for exhuming the body," he said.

The autopsy was originally scheduled to be held upon the arrival of the da Silva's body in Maumere on Sunday, but was not conducted due to a number of considerations, Anselmus said.

He further said that before exhuming the body, his family would sent a letter to Sikka Police for the sake of security.

Indications of torture were reportedly found on the bodies of the two other executed convicts. Rening said that there were five bullet wounds on the bodies of both Fabianus Tibo and Marinus Riwu.

"An autopsy had been conducted on the bodies of both da Silva and Riwu," Rening said without commenting on the plan of da Silva's family to exhume the body again for another autopsy.

Palu Police reported that an autopsy had already been conducted before da Silva was buried in Palu, however, the family say it was conducted without their knowledge.

Rening said that in line with a 1964 law on executions, the firing squad was only allowed to fire one shot at the heart.

"If the first shot is done and an examination shows that the convict is still alive, the firing squad will be allowed to aim their rifle at the head above the ear.

"The fact is that the executed trio were shot several times," Rening said.
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#31601 - 27 Sep 06 20:38 Re: Indo firing squad misses?
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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it might be interesting to see the "hit rate" for the upcoming executions of the bali bombers.

i wonder if they're selling tickets for that event?
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#31602 - 27 Sep 06 21:45 Re: Indo firing squad misses?
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Did you expect anything different! Good to see the incisive eye back!
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#31603 - 27 Sep 06 22:50 Re: Indo firing squad misses?
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I would wager that Aussie media organizations will certainly be attempting to buy tickets.
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#31604 - 28 Sep 06 18:42 Re: Indo firing squad misses?
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Here's Roy Tupai's account of the execution:

From Paras Indonesia

September, 28 2006 @ 02:27 pm

Authorities Deny Foul Play In Poso 3 Executions

Police and the Attorney General's Office have dismissed claims of procedural violations during last week's executions of three Catholic militiamen, who received the death penalty for their involvement in deadly religious violence in Central Sulawesi province in 2000. Rights activists, lawyers and relatives of the three have alleged that wounds to their bodies indicated they were tortured, probably stabbed, before facing the firing squad. There have also been claims that an excessive number of bullets were fired at the men.

National Police chief General Sutanto on Wednesday (27/9/06) rejected rumors that Fabianus Tibo, Marianus Riwu and Dominggus da Silva were tortured or stabbed prior to being executed in the Central Sulawesi capital of Palu early last Friday. "It is not true that there were [torture] wounds on Tibo's body," he was quoted as saying by state news agency Antara.

He said lawyers and priests would have surely known if the three had been subjected to any torture. "They had been in detention for a long time, and furthermore they were accompanied by the priests and the others. So it's untrue," he was quoted as saying by the Kompas daily's online edition.

Lawyers from the Advocacy Service for Justice and Peace in Indonesia (PADMA) and activists from the People’s Solidarity Against the Death Penalty (SMAHT) have claimed that photographs of trio's bodies prior to burial indicated that each had been stabbed and beaten, and shot between four to eight times, while two of Tibo's ribs had been broken.

Sutanto denied the firing squads had pumped too many bullets into Tibo, Riwu and da Silva, saying that legal procedures had been carefully followed. "The fact is, it was in accordance with the provisions. Certainly, they were shot until they died," he was quoted as saying by the Kompas daily's online edition.

Rules for executions are outlined in Law No.2/PNPS/1964 on the Procedures of Implementing the Death Penalty. They include:

* The death sentence is to be carried out in the jurisdiction of the district court that passed the sentence, unless the Justice Minister decides otherwise.

* The time and place of the execution will be determined by the provincial police chief in consultation with the local chief public prosecutor.

* The provincial police chief shall prepare personnel [firing squads], equipment [guns and bullets] and other requirements [select the location].

* The prosecutor shall inform the condemned prisoner of the execution date three days in advance.

* If the condemned prisoner wishes to make any final request/statement, it must be recorded in writing by the prosecutor.

* The condemned prisoner's lawyer may attend the execution.

* The execution must not be carried out publicly, unless the president decides otherwise, and must take place as simply as possible [decoy vehicles are often used to divert the media and relatives].

* To carry out the death sentence, the provincial police chief will form a firing squad comprising a sergeant and 12 corporals led by a senior officer. [the 12 to 14 members are generally from the police's Mobile Brigade - Brimob]

* Members of the firing squad will not use their own weapons and will be under the orders of the prosecutor.

* The condemned prisoner will be brought to the execution venue accompanied by a leader of his religion.

* The prisoner will be blindfolded or hooded. The prisoner will wear an outer garment [such as an apron] with a red cross target covering his heart [to give the marksmen a target to aim at].

* Not all of the guns will be loaded with live ammunition [generally, only one to six of the guns contain live ammunition]. Some of the guns [at least half or most of them] will contain blanks so that members of the firing squad will be spared from certainty and emotional stress that they have killed.

* The prisoner may be standing or seated. If deemed necessary by the prosecutor, the prisoner can be shackled and handcuffed, or tied to a tree or a post or a chair.

* The distance between the prisoner and the firing squad is 5 to 10 meters and the prosecutor will give the order to fire.

* The marksmen will fire at the heart. If the prisoner does not die within a few minutes due to poor marksmanship or unusual longevity, the leader of the firing squad will kill the prisoner with a point-blank gunshot to the temple or the heart.

* A doctor will be present to confirm the death of the prisoner.

* People who feel wronged by the executed prisoner are permitted to visit the morgue later to be certain the execution has been conducted.

Sutanto said the allegations that the Poso three had been stabbed or shot too often were false and should not be disseminated by the media as facts. "Please, the media should not spread falsehoods. Don't become the mouthpiece of those who make up unwanted rumors," he said.

As for PADMA's plan to file a lawsuit over the executions, described as "judicial murder", at the International Court of Justice in the Netherlands, Sutanto said: "Each country has its own distinct legal system and it must be respected."

The lawyers and relatives of the dead have been demanding the bodies be exhumed for new autopsies - to prove their allegations of torture and excessive shooting. The Attorney General's Office said Wednesday that exhumations could only be ordered by authorities in Palu. "It depends on the local authorities in the area that carried out the executions. The executioners were the police and the local prosecutor's office," deputy attorney general for intelligence Muchtar Arifin was quoted as saying by detikcom online news portal.

"I question the logic of having more autopsies, as a doctor already conducted autopsies when the executions took place," he added.

Central Sulawesi Police chief Badrootin Haiti insisted there had been no improprieties in the executions. He said three doctors from the National Police and three general practitioners had conducted autopsies and found nothing amiss. He said that in line with police guidelines, each 12-man firing squad had been armed with six live bullets and six blanks, accounting for the numerous wounds to the prisoners' bodies.

National Police spokesman Paulus Purwoko said the impression of “stab wounds” could have been created by two bullets entering a body at a similar point. "Or perhaps they ricocheted or exploded when hitting the rosary crosses worn by the accused," he said, adding that bruises and broken bones could be caused by fragments of rosaries striking or entering the body.

He said all witnesses could vouch that none of the police had been armed with knives or bayonets. He also said legal action should be taken “against those who spread slander that causes riots”.

The trio's lawyer Roy Rening on Thursday said police and prosecutors were obviously afraid that independent autopsies would reveal evidence of violations. He said that if there were really no violations, then police would have no objections.

Burials, Riot & Jail Break
Tibo and Riwu were buried on Sunday in Central Sulawesi. Tibo was buried in Beteleme village, Morowali district, while Riwu was buried in Molore, Petunia district. Da Silva had requested to be buried at his hometown on Flores island, East Nusa Tenggara province, but authorities decided he should also be buried in Central Sulawesi "for security reasons". The decision sparked strong protests and riots, so his body was later exhumed and buried in Flores on Sunday. About 10,000 people attended the peaceful ceremony.

The executions sparked a riot on Friday in the West Timor town of Atambua (which is part of East Nusa Tenggara), with protesters attacking a prison and setting free about 205 inmates, torching vehicles, vandalizing government buildings and looting shops.

Justice and Human Rights Minister Hamid Awaluddin said Tuesday that 164 of the escaped prisoners had later given themselves up. He said President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono ordered the prisoners be rewarded for their honesty with sentence remissions. "The president has asked me not to impose any sanctions on the escaped Atambua prisoners but instead grant them a special remission because of their honesty and goodwill to give themselves up after a few days on the run," he was quoted as saying by Antara.

National Police deputy chief General Adang Darajatun said nine people had been arrested over the riots. "The East Nusa Tenggara Police chief has reported that nine people have been arrested and declared suspects. Three of them hail from Maumere and the rest from Atambua," he said.

He said police were now investigating whether local students were involved in the unrest, adding that many people were still being questioned.

In Jakarta, several legislators condemned the violence, but a political lecturer from the University of Indonesia, Audy Wuysang, suggested the unrest was due to the government's arrogance in pushing through the executions despite strong indications that Tibo, Riwu and da Silva had not masterminded the Central Sulawesi sectarian conflict. "In short, the state has once again shown its arrogance," he said.

The Vatican also expressed "great regret" over the executions. It said efforts by the Pope to halt the executions were on a "strictly humanitarian level" and "inspired by the well known position of the Catholic Church on the death penalty". Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi said the Holy See was saddened by the "painful" news, calling capital punishment a "defeat for humanity".

Amnesty International said it was "deeply disappointed that despite the debate on the death penalty that the case had sparked across Indonesia, the state went ahead and killed these three men".

The European Union expressed regret over the executions and urged Indonesia to end the death penalty.

Vice President Jusuf Kalla, visiting the US this week, said the executions should not be linked to religion because the case was a purely legal matter.

By: Roy Tupai | Category: Law
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#31605 - 29 Sep 06 08:41 Re: Indo firing squad misses?
riccardo Offline

Registered: 12 Oct 05
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Loc: Jakarta
Quote of the Week:

"...Don't become the mouthpiece of those who make up unwanted rumors," police chief Sutanto said to the media.

IN OTHER WORDS, you have been instructed to only be the mouthpiece of "our" rumors.
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#31606 - 29 Sep 06 08:46 Re: Indo firing squad misses?
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10790
Loc: Centre of the Universe
Originally posted by riccardo:
Quote of the Week:

"...Don't become the mouthpiece of those who make up unwanted rumors," police chief Sutanto said to the media.

IN OTHER WORDS, you have been instructed to only be the mouthpiece of "our" rumors.
sounds reasonable. they do, after all, have the guns.
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