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#31452 - 04 Aug 06 10:05 Dirty French fucks
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Dirty, arrogant French fucks. And I bet this is the tip of the iceberg. No wonder that every single country the French invaded in their failed quest for an Empire has turned into a hell hole wracked by civil war and poverty. Good one frogs!

It makes you wonder about their real motives for ‘standing up’ to the Americans and their British lapdogs.


France confronted with nuclear link to Pacific cancer

1.00pm Friday August 4, 2006
By John Lichfield

PARIS - The French government has been confronted with scientific evidence for the first time that its nuclear tests in the Pacific did cause an increase in cancer on the nearest inhabited islands.

A survey conducted by an official French medical research body has found a "small but clear" increase in the incidence of thyroid cancer amongst people living within 1609 kilometres of nuclear tests on French-owned Polynesian atolls between 1969 and 1996.

The results - which have yet to be officially published - are likely to bring a flurry of compensation claims from civilians and former French military personnel involved in the tests.

They will also re-open the controversy in the Pacific - and in Australia and New Zealand - surrounding President Jacques Chirac's decision to resume the tests soon after he became president in 1995.

France has since abandoned all experimental nuclear explosions.

Florent de Vathaire, an expert on cancer epidemics at the French medical research body Inserm, said: "We can confirm that we have established a link between the fall-out from French nuclear tests and an increased risk of cancer of the thyroid."

This follows the study of 239 thyroid cancer cases in the region which occurred up to 1999 - three years after the last French test.

Only about ten cancer cases over 30 years can be attributed directly to the tests, M. de Vathaire said, but this is a "significant" figure and enough to justify further research.

He called on the French defence ministry to finance additional studies, including examination of military personnel who worked on the nuclear programme in the Pacific.

Officially, France has never recognised that its Pacific nuclear tests could place the health of its own Polynesian citizens - and other populations in the Pacific - at risk.

The brief resumption of tests at Mururoa atoll in 1996 was justified on the grounds that there was no possible threat to human health.

A pressure group for military personnel involved in the tests said that the team's findings should force a change in French official attitudes.

The Association des Veterans des Essais Nucleaires said: "France is one of the last countries in the world to admit that nuclear tests were dangerous to health.

"The United States has recognised by law since 1988 that 31 kinds of illness, including 25 kinds of cancer, can be provoked amongst people living within 700 kilometres of point zero (the explosion site)."

The ministry of defence in Paris refused to comment on the findings until they are officially published.

France conducted 210 nuclear tests between 13 February 1960 and 27 July 1996. The first 17 explosions, in the period up to 1966, were detonated in North Africa, four in the atmosphere and 13 underground.

Between 1966 and 1996, France conducted 193 tests at Mururoa and Fangataufa atolls in the Pacific (46 in the atmosphere and 147 underground).

France has already been forced to admit that some of these explosion caused dangerous levels of radiation in the nearest inhabited islands.

After two tests within 17 days in 1966, radiation at five times the permitted annual dose was measured on the Gambier islands.

After three tests in 1974, radiation equivalent to the entire permitted annual dose was measured in Tahiti.

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#31453 - 04 Aug 06 10:10 Re: Dirty French fucks
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But, put it into perspective. If the French colonialists had not brought modern medicine and health care to these islands, they would be dead at 40. )The average aborigine in Australia can expect to die before 40. )

So some islander dies at 50 – ten years after he would have died anyway…..

Not supporting the French, just being realistic.

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#31454 - 04 Aug 06 17:11 Re: Dirty French fucks
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There was huge outrage all around the pacific, including from Australia, against French nuclear testing -- particularly after the resumption in 96. The testing, the above story says, was on the basis that “on the grounds that there was no possible threat to human health.”

My point remains that this will be the tip of the iceberg in terms of damage to the environment and humans (probably including French citizens) from radiation they said would never be leaked.

And don’t forget the French government’s bombing of Greenpeace’s Rainbow Warrior in Auckland Harbour -- the only act of international terrorism committed in NZ – to prolong its nuclear testing.

Look at France’s attempts at colonisation: Veitnam, Cambodia, Algeria and all those fucked up African countries where they eat each other during combat. Anyway, as much as I hate to say it, compare it to the British Commonwealth.

I have many French friends, in fact I will be there in three weeks, but they don’t have a great track-record.
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#31455 - 04 Aug 06 17:47 Re: Dirty French fucks
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I hate the French (having worked for them for 8 years) however there is more bollocks spouted over nuclear weapons than anything else.

In 1990 some Japanese guy tried to sue the USA for Leukaemia he claimed related to the Hiroshima bomb. He was fucking 94 years old and he had been 300 meters form the epicentre. He lived 10 years longer than my grandparents for fuck sake.

Sixty years AFTER the bomb some 30% of the residents of the city at the time are STILL ALIVE. Over ONE THOUSAND OF THEM LIVE IN THE USA!!!!

http://www.theworld.org/worldfeature/hiroshima/index.shtml

The day after the bomb the trams ran again in Hiroshima. ALL STONE buildings were still standing – the big open are always shown on TV was in fact full of paper and balsa wood shacks build because of earthquakes. A fart would have flattened them.


Anyone, ANYONE, living in Edinburgh get MORE radiation exposure via the granite than ALL of the atomic bombs that have ever been detonated. Naturally occurring Radon gas is the second highest cause of lung cancer in the UK.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/lau/lacs/42-1.htm

Christmas Island, used by the British to test atomic bombs as late as 1962. by 1992 – exactly 40 years later, the opened a fucking CASINO on the site to cater for Indonesian gamblers.

http://geography.about.com/library/cia/blcchristmas.htm

http://www.sea-us.org.au/thunder/britsbombingus.html


The truth is simply this: During the cold war it served both sides to argue that nuclear weapons were more powerful than they really were.

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#31456 - 04 Aug 06 20:48 Re: Dirty French fucks
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PB posted: "Anyone, ANYONE, living in Edinburgh get MORE radiation exposure via the granite than ALL of the atomic bombs that have ever been detonated. Naturally occurring Radon gas is the second highest cause of lung cancer in the UK."

Lets hope it stays that way, but I would note that if it is so safe, as you say, why didn't France do its testing in Paris?

And also you give a the examples of Hiroshima and Christmas Island. Wasn't there massive clean up operations afterwards, including removing contaminated soil or sand?
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