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#30998 - 11 Jun 06 21:30 The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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The Muslim Brotherhood "Project"
By Patrick Poole
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 11, 2006


One might be led to think that if international law enforcement authorities and Western intelligence agencies had discovered a twenty-year old document revealing a top-secret plan developed by the oldest Islamist organization with one of the most extensive terror networks in the world to launch a program of “cultural invasion” and eventual conquest of the West that virtually mirrors the tactics used by Islamists for more than two decades, that such news would scream from headlines published on the front pages and above the fold of the New York Times, Washington Post, London Times, Le Monde, Bild, and La Repubblica.


If that’s what you might think, you would be wrong.



In fact, such a document was recovered in a raid by Swiss authorities in November 2001, two months after the horror of 9/11. Since that time information about this document, known in counterterrorism circles as “The Project”, and discussion regarding its content has been limited to the top-secret world of Western intelligence communities. Only through the work of an intrepid Swiss journalist, Sylvain Besson of Le Temps, and his book published in October 2005 in France, La conquête de l'Occident: Le projet secret des Islamistes (The Conquest of the West: The Islamists' Secret Project), has information regarding The Project finally been made public. One Western official cited by Besson has described The Project as “a totalitarian ideology of infiltration which represents, in the end, the greatest danger for European societies.”



Now FrontPage readers will be the first to be able to read the complete English translation of The Project.



What Western intelligence authorities know about The Project begins with the raid of a luxurious villa in Campione, Switzerland on November 7, 2001. The target of the raid was Youssef Nada, director of the Al-Taqwa Bank of Lugano, who has had active association with the Muslim Brotherhood for more than 50 years and who admitted to being one of the organization’s international leaders. The Muslim Brotherhood, regarded as the oldest and one of the most important Islamist movements in the world, was founded by Hasan al-Banna in 1928 and dedicated to the credo, “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”



The raid was conducted by Swiss law enforcement at the request of the White House in the initial crackdown on terrorist finances in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. US and Swiss investigators had been looking at Al-Taqwa’s involvement in money laundering and funding a wide range of Islamic terrorist groups, including Al-Qaeda, HAMAS (the Palestinian affiliate of the Muslim Brotherhood), the Algerian GIA, and the Tunisian Ennahdah.



Included in the documents seized during the raid of Nada’s Swiss villa was a 14-page plan written in Arabic and dated December 1, 1982, which outlines a 12-point strategy to “establish an Islamic government on earth” – identified as The Project. According to testimony given to Swiss authorities by Nada, the unsigned document was prepared by “Islamic researchers” associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.



What makes The Project so different from the standard “Death of America! Death to Israel!” and “Establish the global caliphate!” Islamist rhetoric is that it represents a flexible, multi-phased, long-term approach to the “cultural invasion” of the West. Calling for the utilization of various tactics, ranging from immigration, infiltration, surveillance, propaganda, protest, deception, political legitimacy and terrorism, The Project has served for more than two decades as the Muslim Brotherhood “master plan”. As can be seen in a number of examples throughout Europe – including the political recognition of parallel Islamist government organizations in Sweden, the recent “cartoon” jihad in Denmark, the Parisian car-burning intifada last November, and the 7/7 terrorist attacks in London – the plan outlined in The Project has been overwhelmingly successful.



Rather than focusing on terrorism as the sole method of group action, as is the case with Al-Qaeda, in perfect postmodern fashion the use of terror falls into a multiplicity of options available to progressively infiltrate, confront, and eventually establish Islamic domination over the West. The following tactics and techniques are among the many recommendations made in The Project:



Networking and coordinating actions between likeminded Islamist organizations;
Avoiding open alliances with known terrorist organizations and individuals to maintain the appearance of “moderation”;
Infiltrating and taking over existing Muslim organizations to realign them towards the Muslim Brotherhood’s collective goals;
Using deception to mask the intended goals of Islamist actions, as long as it doesn’t conflict with shari’a law;
Avoiding social conflicts with Westerners locally, nationally or globally, that might damage the long-term ability to expand the Islamist powerbase in the West or provoke a lash back against Muslims;
Establishing financial networks to fund the work of conversion of the West, including the support of full-time administrators and workers;
Conducting surveillance, obtaining data, and establishing collection and data storage capabilities;
Putting into place a watchdog system for monitoring Western media to warn Muslims of “international plots fomented against them”;
Cultivating an Islamist intellectual community, including the establishment of think-tanks and advocacy groups, and publishing “academic” studies, to legitimize Islamist positions and to chronicle the history of Islamist movements;
Developing a comprehensive 100-year plan to advance Islamist ideology throughout the world;
Balancing international objectives with local flexibility;
Building extensive social networks of schools, hospitals and charitable organizations dedicated to Islamist ideals so that contact with the movement for Muslims in the West is constant;
Involving ideologically committed Muslims in democratically-elected institutions on all levels in the West, including government, NGOs, private organizations and labor unions;
Instrumentally using existing Western institutions until they can be converted and put into service of Islam;
Drafting Islamic constitutions, laws and policies for eventual implementation;
Avoiding conflict within the Islamist movements on all levels, including the development of processes for conflict resolution;
Instituting alliances with Western “progressive” organizations that share similar goals;
Creating autonomous “security forces” to protect Muslims in the West;
Inflaming violence and keeping Muslims living in the West “in a jihad frame of mind”;
Supporting jihad movements across the Muslim world through preaching, propaganda, personnel, funding, and technical and operational support;
Making the Palestinian cause a global wedge issue for Muslims;
Adopting the total liberation of Palestine from Israel and the creation of an Islamic state as a keystone in the plan for global Islamic domination;
Instigating a constant campaign to incite hatred by Muslims against Jews and rejecting any discussions of conciliation or coexistence with them;
Actively creating jihad terror cells within Palestine;
Linking the terrorist activities in Palestine with the global terror movement;
Collecting sufficient funds to indefinitely perpetuate and support jihad around the world;

In reading The Project, it should be kept in mind that it was drafted in 1982 when current tensions and terrorist activities in the Middle East were still very nascent. In many respects, The Project is extremely prescient for outlining the bulk of Islamist action, whether by “moderate” Islamist organizations or outright terror groups, over the past two decades.



At present, most of what is publicly known about The Project is the result of Sylvain Besson’s investigative work, including his book and a related article published last October in the Swiss daily, Le Temps, L'islamisme à la conquête du monde (Islamism and the Conquest of the World), profiling his book, which is only available in a French-language edition. At least one Egyptian newspaper, Al-Mussawar, published the entire Arabic text of The Project last November.



In the English-language press, the attention paid to Besson’s revelation of The Project has been almost non-existent. The only mention found in a mainstream media publication in the US has been as a secondary item in an article in the Weekly Standard (February 20, 2006) by Olivier Guitta, The Cartoon Jihad. The most extensive commentary on The Project has been by an American researcher and journalist living in London, Scott Burgess, who has posted his analysis of the document on his blog, The Daily Ablution. Along with his commentary, an English translation of the French text of The Project was serialized in December (Parts I, II, III, IV, V, Conclusion). The complete English translation prepared by Mr. Burgess is presented in its entirety here with his permission.



The lack of public discussion about The Project notwithstanding, the document and the plan it outlines has been the subject of considerable discussion amongst the Western intelligence agencies. One US counterterrorism official who spoke with Besson about The Project, and who is cited in Guitta’s Weekly Standard article, is current White House terrorism czar, Juan Zarate. Calling The Project a Muslim Brotherhood master plan for “spreading their political ideology,” Zarate expressed concerns to Besson because “the Muslim Brotherhood is a group that worries us not because it deals with philosophical or ideological ideas but because it defends the use of violence against civilians.”



One renowned international scholar of Islamist movements who also spoke with Besson, Reuven Paz, talked about The Project in its historical context:



The Project was part of the charter of the international organization of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was official established on July 29, 1982. It reflects a vast plan which was revived in the 1960s, with the immigration of Brotherhood intellectuals, principally Syrian and Egyptians, into Europe.



As Paz notes, The Project was drafted by the Muslim Brotherhood as part of its rechartering process in 1982, a time that marks an upswing in its organizational expansion internationally, as well as a turning point in the alternating periods of repression and toleration by the Egyptian government. In 1952, the organization played a critical support role to the Free Officers Movement led by Gamal Abdul Nasser, which overthrew King Faruq, but quickly fell out of favor with the new revolutionary regime because of Nasser’s refusal to follow the Muslim Brotherhood’s call to institute an ideologically committed Islamic state. At various times since the July Revolution in 1952, the Brotherhood has regularly been banned and its leaders killed and imprisoned by Egyptian authorities.



Since it was rechartered in 1982, the Muslim Brotherhood has spread its network across the Middle East, Europe, and even America. At home in Egypt, parliamentary elections in 2005 saw the Muslim Brotherhood winning 20 percent of the available legislative seats, comprising the largest opposition party block. Its Palestinian affiliate, known to the world as HAMAS, recently gained control of the Palestinian Authority after elections secured for them 74 of 132 seats in the Palestinian Legislative Council. Its Syrian branch has historically been the largest organized group opposing the Assad regime, and the organization also has affiliates in Jordan, Sudan, and Iraq. In the US, the Muslim Brotherhood is primarily represented by the Muslim American Society (MAS).



Since its formation, the Muslim Brotherhood has advocated the use of terrorism as a means of advancing its agenda of global Islamic domination. But as the largest popular radical movement in the Islamic world, it has attracted many leading Islamist intellectuals. Included among this group of Muslim Brotherhood intellectuals is Youssef Qaradawi, an Egyptian-born, Qatar-based Islamist cleric.



As one of the leading Muslim Brotherhood spiritual figures and radical Islamic preachers (who has his own weekly program on Al-Jazeera), Qaradawi has been one of the leading apologists of suicide bombings in Israel and terrorism against Western interests in the Middle East. Both Sylvain Besson and Scott Burgess provide extensive comparisons between Qaradawi’s publication, Priorities of the Islamic Movement in the Coming Phase, published in 1990, and The Project, which predates Qaradawi’s Priorities by eight years. They note the striking similarities in the language used and the plans and methods both documents advocate. It is speculated that The Project was either used by Qaradawi as a template for his own work, or that he had a hand in its drafting in 1982. Perhaps coincidentally, Qaradawi was the fourth largest shareholder in the Al-Taqwa Bank of Lugano, the director of which, Youssef Nada, was the individual in whose possession The Project was found. Since 1999, Qaradawi has been banned from entering the US as a result of his connections to terrorist organizations and his outspoken advocacy of terrorism.



For those who have read The Project, what is most troubling is not that Islamists have developed a plan for global dominance; it has been assumed by experts that Islamist organizations and terrorist groups have been operating off an agreed-upon set of general principles, networks and methodology. What is startling is how effectively the Islamist plan for conquest outlined in The Project has been implemented by Muslims in the West for more than two decades. Equally troubling is the ideology that lies behind the plan: inciting hatred and violence against Jewish populations around the world; the deliberate co-opting and subversion of Western public and private institutions; its recommendation of a policy of deliberate escalating confrontation by Muslims living in the West against their neighbors and fellow-citizens; the acceptance of terrorism as a legitimate option for achieving their ends and the inevitable reality of jihad against non-Muslims; and its ultimate goal of forcibly instituting the Islamic rule of the caliphate by shari’a in the West, and eventually the whole world.



If the experience over the past quarter of a century seen in Europe and the US is any indication, the “Islamic researchers” who drafted The Project more than two decades ago must be pleased to see their long-term plan to conquer the West and to see the Green flag of Islam raised over its citizens realized so rapidly, efficiently and completely. If Islamists are equally successful in the years to come, Westerners ought to enjoy their personal and political freedoms while they last.

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#30999 - 11 Jun 06 21:59 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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PB, seen this shit before! Does it really worry you!

I am off the opinion, and experience that mostly when tried it does not get past the ground floor!

Statements like 1/4 century and 2 decades really mean nothing!

Been there, done it & got the T shirt! Let them spout, it will be as always, like a man after 20 pints farting in the bath!
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#31000 - 11 Jun 06 23:06 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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it sounds credible, nonetheless. just because it will ultimately become a failed strategy, a lot of people -- Muslims -- will be duped in the meantime into diverting their frustration with the West and its perceived hypocrisy into islamic fundamentalism. and that could mean decades of terror and many innocent lives lost.

there are many underground movements even here in jakarta, who dress their fundamentalism in language of "moderation".
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#31001 - 12 Jun 06 02:38 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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So, they (the islamic extremist) hate us non muslims and western for simply EXISTING. They hate our culture (western dress, homosexuality, being christian, being jewish, being hindu, budhist...just being)...not because of the US policies, or that they entered Iraq.
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#31002 - 12 Jun 06 09:39 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Wallet-digga I think your'e exactly right, for much of the Islamic world's history the infidel world was far away and could be safely ignored, but today this is impossible, it's in their face all the time and they hate it, they hate its success, its arrogance and pride.

Europe is in long term trouble because they don't breed anymore, their fertility rates are often well-below replacement level, many of the smaller European nations will have disappeared in 50 - 100 years time because of this. Some analysts like Mark Steyn and Spengler even predict the bigger nations, Germany, Spain and Italy, will vanish after about 100 years.

There are plenty of Arabs ready to take up residence in the empty homes of Europe. They do breed, and they often keep themselves separate, refuse to integrate, to the point where it is possible the European cultures themselves will be lost, replaced by what some call "Eurabia".
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#31003 - 12 Jun 06 10:51 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Thanks Pak patung! so we need to kill them first before they kill us!
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#31004 - 12 Jun 06 10:58 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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we will all become peanut M&M's eventually, or Cockroaches....that's if the big bomb doesnt wipe us out first....place you bets here as to who presses the button!
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#31005 - 12 Jun 06 13:40 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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extremist muslims are the most intolerant and hateful group on the planet. Look what's going on in Indonesia now, those crazy muslims in Jakarta?, and every where around the world!.. they like to beheading people or threatening the lives of any good muslim who speaks out. They are disgusting cockroaches and we need to get rid of them!
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#31006 - 12 Jun 06 13:45 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Agree with you WD babe!

And this is some of Mr. Armstrong mind and the "condition" of INA itself.

Fundamentalism which Armstrong means not only happens on Semitic religion like Jewish, Christian and Islam but it happen for all over the “formal” religions in the world. Religion fundamentals illustrating for the powerful of wish to go back to the teach of religion fundamental, and try to keep and raising up again for the “duplicate of history” those religion to the age now, for more Armstrong said fundamentalism not only movement to the root but also the movement against modernity which being accuse as a matter which causing multidimensional crisis.

Every kind of “violence of shows” including bomb attacked in some place in INA, was the illustrations of our pluralistic culture this time, from the Azahari’s ”adventures” which causing lots of pain and sometimes using religion as a mask/label, we can proved that religion had potencies to create lots of different individual, from the “right extreme” until “left extreme”.

Point of view and perceiving someone for his/her faith or religion, plus unfolding for the social-religion on their neighborhoods, it could be strongly affected to their “think and act” commonly. Perceiving and multi culture expression of society, maybe will never be homogeny but always complex and colorful, understanding for religion has the same way too, so it will “root deeper” and will follow to create the behavior of the society which multi culture.

The result is the people of Islam fundamentals which sometime creating harassment and violence of action, beside because of the social-politic-economic factor but also the influence of understanding from religion.
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#31007 - 13 Jun 06 07:57 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Frankly I am concerned.

A strict religious movement comes out with a sound credible plan to force its restrictive religion upon me.

This plan, developed over 20 years ago, is credible, sound and workable.

There are obvious examples of this plan being implemented. I can demonstrate that every single component of the plan has been implemented. The world is being Islamified.

The problem is that behind the initial wave of islamification, there is a second wave of radical Islamification. These people are now in the ascendency.

The new Sharia laws in Indonesia, the high percentage of Islamic representation in local government in the UK, the alarming number of extremist Imams and Mullahs who migrate to non Muslim countries and start new radical Mosques, are examples of this radical Islamification.

In Mogadishu the local war lords were beaten last month by an Islamic army. The first new rule was one banning the playing of football, and the watching of the world cup!!!! Several people were beaten over the weekend for daring to defy the ban on watching soccer.

Do I want to end my days in my own country, with alcohol and porn prohibited, where women cannot drive a car, or go out unaccompanied? Where girls have to cover their head and face upon reaching puberty? Where I am forced to pray 5 times a day?

And as you and I both know Dilli, the radical Islam is not so good in the implementation. I know a couple of Filipino nurses who got gang raped in Dubai after a night in the Red Lion... I guess you know similar stories. We both know some of the stories about Jakarta and the Islamic Defenders Front….

If anyone want to try to force in on me, they are going to get push back.

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#31008 - 13 Jun 06 08:19 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Why is this situation developing?

Four principle reasons.

Firstly, the West has become far more permissive. Life in the 50s was strict by todays standards. No sex before marriage, no abortion, no homosexuality etc. Then came the swinging 60s, the permissive 70s, and the open 80s. Today in the West women get blind drunk, go out looking for sex, have multiple partners (sometimes at the same time), dabble in bisexual relationships, sunbath naked, wear revealing clothing (even at work). Homosexuality is rife. Drunkenness and drug abuse is rampant. We are in some ways seeing the decline of the Roman Empire.

Secondly, modern travel and modern media makes Muslims aware of this promiscuity. They see it in magazines, on the cinema, on TV. They fly to London and see it on the streets. This is an affront to their religion.

Thirdly, populations are now more mobile. Everyone flies across the world. Half of the major cities of the West are now migrant communities. Paris, London, New York, are full of recent arrivals, who bring with them their old standards and ideals.

Fourthly, left wing socialists have convince the world that everyone is equal, no matter how basic their education or understanding.

So we have a situation where a simple Arabic shepherd who in 1950 would never have seen a TV, a glossy magazine, or a movie, now migrates to London. He is suddenly confronted with promiscuity, and because he is told he is an equal, he thinks he has the right to change things.

He may be illiterate, he may be prejudiced, he may not understand democracy, but he thinks he has the right to object to the way Londoners live their lives.

(The Arabs behind the Islamic Defenders Front are doing exactly this in Indonesia….._

And out of this changed scenario comes the Muslim Brotherhood with a claptrap idea of making the world better by making it Islamic.

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#31009 - 13 Jun 06 08:45 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
Frankly I am concerned.


The new Sharia laws in Indonesia, the high percentage of Islamic representation in local government in the UK, the alarming number of extremist Imams and Mullahs who migrate to non Muslim countries and start new radical Mosques, are examples of this radical Islamification.

What new sharia laws in Indonesia...are these the proposed laws you are referring to, or did I miss the boat and they have been implemeted, without my knowledge (not that this doesnt happen all of the time! wink


Do I want to end my days in my own country, with alcohol and porn prohibited, where women cannot drive a car, or go out unaccompanied? Where girls have to cover their head and face upon reaching puberty? Where I am forced to pray 5 times a day?

I really think you will be dead before pron is prohibited in Austrilia PB, and probably me as well, but i see your point

And as you and I both know Dilli, the radical Islam is not so good in the implementation. I know a couple of Filipino nurses who got gang raped in Dubai after a night in the Red Lion... I guess you know similar stories. We both know some of the stories about Jakarta and the Islamic Defenders Front….

If anyone want to try to force in on me, they are going to get push back.
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#31010 - 13 Jun 06 09:10 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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More than anything else, it is the audacity of a bunch of half educated morons trying top impose their will upon me that I object to.

If Islam is so good why is the Middle East permanently in turmoil, with war, and strife a constant problem?

Why is prostitution such a problem and way of life in Indonesia?

Why are the countries of my birth and of my adoption sinking under the weight of Islamic migrants who will risk everything to get away…..

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#31011 - 13 Jun 06 14:12 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
(The Arabs behind the Islamic Defenders Front are doing exactly this in Indonesia….._

And out of this changed scenario comes the Muslim Brotherhood with a claptrap idea of making the world better by making it Islamic.
Yes exactly, and you know not only force for the other adherent for the same too.... don’t have right to accepted the love, blessing even could be recognize as a sinner when sometime should be treat unfair and inhumane. There is no need to look or care does the other adherent beside his/her faith is a conscious choices or it’s just a part from social heritance which accept just like they way they are. Sometimes too, people who have same faith but different thinking and organization or different class and economy also being treat not so far. The sacred of ritual faith which lots promising of reward, sometimes be understood as a seldom chance to get rewards and competition to make social limits which be sure for more and lots of rewards (again).

Religion which should have been a form of medicine but it became a poison instead because of over-dosing.
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#31012 - 13 Jun 06 14:46 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Quote:
Originally posted by Magpie:
Quote:

What new sharia laws in Indonesia...are these the proposed laws you are referring to, or did I miss the boat and they have been implemeted, without my knowledge (not that this doesnt happen all of the time! wink

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Sharia laws…..

Well, the new Porn laws are Shartia law in another name, but also regional governments are busy drafting their own versions of restrictive laws that will enforce Sharia principles upon a population.

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#31013 - 13 Jun 06 18:45 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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From The Sunday Times - Britain http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2220267,00.html

The Sunday Times June 11, 2006

Beware: the new goths are coming
Peter Almond

ONE of Britain’s most senior military strategists has warned that western civilisation faces a threat on a par with the barbarian invasions that destroyed the Roman empire.

In an apocalyptic vision of security dangers, Rear Admiral Chris Parry said future migrations would be comparable to the Goths and Vandals while north African "barbary" pirates could be attacking yachts and beaches in the Mediterranean within 10 years.

Europe, including Britain, could be undermined by large immigrant groups with little allegiance to their host countries — a "reverse colonisation" as Parry described it. These groups would stay connected to their homelands by the internet and cheap flights. The idea of assimilation was becoming redundant, he said.

The warnings by Parry of what could threaten Britain over the next 30 years were delivered to senior officers and industry experts at a conference last week. Parry, head of the development, concepts and doctrine centre at the Ministry of Defence, is charged with identifying the greatest challenges that will frame national security policy in the future.

If a security breakdown occurred, he said, it was likely to be brought on by environmental destruction and a population boom, coupled with technology and radical Islam. The result for Britain and Europe, Parry warned, could be "like the 5th century Roman empire facing the Goths and the Vandals".

Parry pointed to the mass migration which disaster in the Third World could unleash. "The diaspora issue is one of my biggest current concerns," he said. "Globalisation makes assimilation seem redundant and old-fashioned . . . [the process] acts as a sort of reverse colonisation, where groups of people are self-contained, going back and forth between their countries, exploiting sophisticated networks and using instant communication on phones and the internet."

Third World instability would lick at the edges of the West as pirates attacked holidaymakers from fast boats. "At some time in the next 10 years it may not be safe to sail a yacht between Gibraltar and Malta," said the admiral.

Parry, 52, an Oxford graduate who was mentioned in dispatches in the Falklands war, is not claiming all the threats will come to fruition. He is warning, however, of what is likely to happen if dangers are not addressed by politicians.

Parry — who used the slogan "old dog, new tricks" when he commanded the assault ship HMS Fearless — foresees wholesale moves by the armed forces to robots, drones, nanotechnology, lasers, microwave weapons, space-based systems and even "customised" nuclear and neutron bombs.

Lord Boyce, the former chief of the defence staff, welcomed Parry’s analysis. "Bringing it together in this way shows we have some very serious challenges ahead," he said. "The real problem is getting them taken seriously at the top of the government."

Ancient Rome has been a subject of serious public discussion this year. Boris Johnson, the Conservative MP and journalist, produced a book and television series drawing parallels between the European Union and the Roman empire. Terry Jones, the former Monty Python star, meanwhile, has spoken up for the barbarians’ technological and social achievements in a television series and has written:

We actually owe far more to the so-called ‘barbarians’ than we do to the men in togas."

Parry, based in Shrivenham, Wiltshire, presented his vision at the Royal United Services Institute in central London. He identified the most dangerous flashpoints by overlaying maps showing the regions most threatened by factors such as agricultural decline, booming youth populations, water shortages, rising sea levels and radical Islam.

Parry predicts that as flood or starvation strikes, the most dangerous zones will be Africa, particularly the northern half; most of the Middle East and central Asia as far as northern China; a strip from Nepal to Indonesia; and perhaps eastern China.

He pinpoints 2012 to 2018 as the time when the current global power structure is likely to crumble. Rising nations such as China, India, Brazil and Iran will challenge America’s sole superpower status.

This will come as "irregular activity" such as terrorism, organised crime and "white companies" of mercenaries burgeon in lawless areas.

The effects will be magnified as borders become more porous and some areas sink beyond effective government control.

Parry expects the world population to grow to about 8.4 billion in 2035, compared with 6.4 billion today. By then some 68% of the population will be urban, with some giant metropolises becoming ungovernable. He warns that Mexico City could be an example.

In an effort to control population growth, some countries may be tempted to copy China’s "one child" policy. This, with the widespread preference for male children, could lead to a ratio of boys to girls of as much as 150 to 100 in some countries. This will produce dangerous surpluses of young men with few economic prospects and no female company.

"When you combine the lower prospects for communal life with macho youth and economic deprivation you tend to get trouble, typified by gangs and organised criminal activity," said Parry. "When one thinks of 20,000 so-called jihadists currently fly-papered in Iraq, one shudders to think where they might go next."

The competition for resources, Parry argues, may lead to a return to "industrial warfare" as countries with large and growing male populations mobilise armies, even including cavalry, while acquiring high-technology weaponry from the West.

The subsequent mass population movements, Parry argues, could lead to the "Rome scenario". The western Roman empire collapsed in the 4th and 5th centuries as groups such as Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Suevi, Huns and Vandals surged over its borders. The process culminated in the sack of Rome in 455 by Geiseric the Lame, king of the Alans and Vandals, in an invasion from north Africa.

Parry estimated at the conference there were already more than 70 diasporas in Britain.

In the future, he believes, large groups that become established in Britain and Europe after mass migration may develop "communities of interest" with unstable or anti-western regions.

Any technological advantage developed to deal with the threats was unlikely to last. "I don’t think we can win in cyberspace — it’s like the weather — but we need to have a raincoat and an umbrella to deal with the effects," said Parry.

Some of the consequences would be beyond human imagination to tackle. The examples he gave, tongue-in-cheek, include: "No wind on land and sea; third of population dies instantly; perpetual darkness; sores; Euphrates dries up ‘to clear way for kings from the east’; earth’s core opens."

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Rear Admiral Chris Parry is the armed forces’ chief “blue skies” thinker.

Parry, 52, was educated at the independent Portsmouth grammar school and at Jesus College, Oxford. During the Falklands war in 1982, he was mentioned in dispatches while serving with the Fleet Air Arm on the destroyer HMS Antrim.

Parry is one of Britain’s leading specialists on amphibious warfare. He once commanded the assault ship HMS Fearless, was in charge of amphibious warfare training at Portsmouth naval base and headed a joint British-Dutch taskforce before moving to his post at the Ministry of Defence.

The admiral heads the development, concepts and doctrine centre, set up in 1998 and based at Shrivenham, Wiltshire. It has more than 50 staff and is being expanded to include extra analysts.
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#31014 - 13 Jun 06 19:12 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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is this the bnp or what
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#31015 - 13 Jun 06 19:13 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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let me rephrase-I had the misfortune to get shown some of the bnp publishing and now everything i read anywhere makes me sad.
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#31016 - 13 Jun 06 19:17 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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what's a bnp??
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#31017 - 13 Jun 06 19:26 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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british national party.
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#31018 - 13 Jun 06 19:36 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Hey - i used to be a paid up member....


Mass demigration is the answer. SEND THE FUCKERS HOME!

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#31019 - 13 Jun 06 19:43 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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I got so upset about their stuff about "mixed race " children.
Anyway you must be white to join ( according to their constitution) so my kiddy wont be getting into their party!! LOL.
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#31020 - 13 Jun 06 20:08 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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I was dating a girl from Mauritius - Sadia was of Indian descent, and I introduced her to most of the members I knew. No one objected to her, and all of them treated her with respect.

I ended with Sadia when she started bitching to me about how “bad” England was. Her ex BF was a drug dealing Fijian who regularly beat her up…..

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#31021 - 13 Jun 06 21:27 Re: The Brotherhood. Coming to your country soon...
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Ena just because the BNP says something doesn't mean that thing is wrong. It might be right, I'd take each issue on its merits.

As for the barbarians at the gates, there's one big difference between now and 1500 years ago or whenever. Then the Catholic church managed to convert the wave after wave of barbarians to christianity, today they don't even try to. Why don't try, or why they probably wouldn't be able to do it even if they did try, is the root of the problem, not the hordes themselves.
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