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#28648 - 16 Nov 05 12:14 Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
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Registered: 06 Nov 05
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Monday 14th saw the J.P. hit a new low in its constant pro-communist slant.
"1965 Holocaust" screamed the headline, but after reading several paragraphs, even the author tells us that holocaust isn't a suitable word to use.
This is just the latest in the J.P.'s campaign to make us think those old dinosaurs are okay guys. Yet not one of those featured in its syrupy stories has ever expressed regret for involving themselves with a satanic cause.
Communism is, was, and ever shall be, an evil movement. Why doesn't The Jakarta Post realise this?

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#28649 - 20 Nov 05 14:34 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
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Actually Mr. Jakarta_Free_Press, I was the copy editor who approved that headline. I forget what the exact original was, but I do remember changing it to fit the space available.

But yes, the title was wrong. I usually only check the first few paragraphs to make sure the title appears consistent with the the title; actually changing the article is of course not within my domain, in particular when it involves an opinion piece. And yes, in the middle of the article -- as I discovered the next day on reading the entire article -- the word "holocaust was" inappropriate.

But, as they say, shit happens. And lots of shit happens at The Jakarta Post ... wink

As to your charge that JP is involved in some sort of "campaign" to support the PKI, well, that is complete utter nonsense.

However, there does seem to be an effort on the part of certain editors and opinion writers in JP (and many other Indonesian-language newspapers) to correct the TNI's skewed version of the events of 1965-1967 in particular.
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#28650 - 02 Feb 06 21:32 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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looks as though our token right-wing fascist "writer" has left town ... haven't seen hide nor hair of him in jakarta recently. must have worn out his welcome.......
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#28651 - 03 Feb 06 05:49 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
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Hey, I thought I was the right wing fascist.

I love George Bush
Pass me a Lager and point me to Poland (sorry Airwire)
The showers are over there....

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#28652 - 03 Feb 06 07:25 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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yep, you're now JakChat's resident right-wing fascist shit. Jakarta_free_press couldn't stand the heat wink
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#28653 - 03 Feb 06 11:09 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
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so im a shit smile

Incidentally kuKuKachu, do you intent publishing the Muhammad Cartoons in The Jakarta Post????

Or is freedom of the presss just a myth. it is in Australia, where the weak press dare not publish it!!!

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#28654 - 03 Feb 06 11:43 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Polar Bear:
so im a shit smile

Incidentally kuKuKachu, do you intent publishing the Muhammad Cartoons in The Jakarta Post????

Or is freedom of the presss just a myth. it is in Australia, where the weak press dare not publish it!!!
funny you should mention that, PB. i was actually seriously contemplating this morning publishing the cartoons on JakChat. However, I need a bodyguard. Would you like to take the bullets for me??
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#28655 - 03 Feb 06 12:04 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
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Please dont publish them Kuku. I think it would offend a lot of poeple and achieve very little.

i would not publish something that would seriously offend people (and that is CLEARLY why the cartoons were created in the first place).

On the other hand a religious minority (or even majority) cannot order the press or non believers not to do something. if you ask me not to do something, out of kindness I will comply. if you order me not to do something, I bloody well will do it just to prove a point.

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#28656 - 03 Feb 06 12:38 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
juminten Offline
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Registered: 08 Dec 05
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No, I agree with PB, you'll be a homeless as soon as the cartoons apprear on JP! They (FPI) will "demo" and burn your office..
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#28657 - 03 Feb 06 12:48 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
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Hey I dont care if kuku is homeless, or dead smile The freedom of the press is worth more than that.

but i would not want ot offend anyone here.

If anyone wants to see the cartoons PM me and i will email them to you.

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#28658 - 03 Feb 06 12:59 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
juminten Offline
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Registered: 08 Dec 05
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I do smile if kuku dead, no more JakChat and I can't see you either.
but even CNN didn't show the cartoons!
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#28659 - 03 Feb 06 13:19 Re: Jakarta Post - P.K.I. Drivel
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I will always be waiting for you.

KuKu knows that the press relies upon its freedom. in return it presents the truth - even if its not nice.

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