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#27736 - 01 Feb 06 00:18 Resort & Hotel Development
Yan Offline
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Registered: 01 Feb 06
Posts: 5
Loc: Bangkok
laugh So anyone interested in Business in Thailand,
As it seems so much negative vibes about Indonesia, i suppose i must say i have experience in bad news in Indonesia, and i always try to be looking for the phoenix, but October was the last straw for any developments from our side, as Bali just got arse kicked again, by misguided individuals who in their misguided stupidity thought they were striking a blow at the US, laugh

But as we have not totally excluded Indonesia i would like to hear feedback from anyone who has done Resort or Hotel developements,

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#27737 - 01 Feb 06 05:14 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
Polar Bear Offline
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Registered: 23 Nov 05
Posts: 6177
LOL Yan, you are sadly mistaken....

The reasons for both attacks on Bali are far more complicated:

1. It serves as a warning to Balinese people - play the Islam game or we hurt you.

2. it serves as a similar warning to all moderate Indonesians.

3. it helps destroy the Bali tourist economy, thus making Bali dependent upon Indonesia and removing any ideas of independence.

4. It dissuades foreign tourists from visiting, reducing the corrupting influence of non Muslims.

5. it demonstrates to power of fundamentalist Muslims.

6. it assists in destabalising world economies.

My honest opinion as much as I love Indonesia its a high risk environment until they sort this crap out. Anywhere where foreign people congregate (hotels, bars, airports) are prime targets for these lunatics. And if the West continues to invest in Indonesia before the problem is fixed, the average Indonesian will never get off his ass and fix it.

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#27738 - 01 Feb 06 16:55 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10790
Loc: Centre of the Universe
actually, there's huge scope for spa development in indonesia, despite all the apparent problems. however, large-scale developments should probably sit and wait. i've got a number of clients who are establishing small boutique hotels and spas in non-traditional locations (ie, not Bali or Lombok) and the potential is excellent.
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#27739 - 02 Feb 06 06:16 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
juminten Offline
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Registered: 08 Dec 05
Posts: 3870
Loc: disana-disini
Yan, I read all your posts, seems you really don't like Indonesia at all. So what are you doing hangout here?
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#27740 - 02 Feb 06 17:30 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
Jokie Jokie Girl Offline
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Registered: 07 Nov 05
Posts: 2552
Loc: Central Jakarta
Quote:
Originally posted by JakGirl:
Yan, I read all your posts, seems you really don't like Indonesia at all. So what are you doing hangout here?
come on JG don't say that to Yan!
hi's broken heart..
I think that Yan really love Indonesia but he still malu-malu kucing how to star here?

anyway Yan, you need a private guide, come on don't be shy..
tell us.. wink
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#27741 - 02 Feb 06 19:17 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
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Registered: 26 Nov 05
Posts: 765
Loc: Sydney
I would pay for an indonesian spa visit!
I loooove martha tilaar....
I never been to bali but my friends go there heaps for surfing and also go to sumbawa.And G -land.
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#27742 - 02 Feb 06 21:23 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10790
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hey ena, you wanna go partners? you supply the money and i'll build the spa, and you can have free massages every day of the year wink
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#27743 - 03 Feb 06 15:00 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
Ena Offline
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Registered: 26 Nov 05
Posts: 765
Loc: Sydney
no worries-as soon as I get my kaki lima hotdog stand raking in the formaldehyde assisted dollars Im there!LOL.
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#27744 - 03 Feb 06 19:19 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
cherry Offline
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Registered: 08 Nov 05
Posts: 1055
Loc: Indonesia
Quote:
Originally posted by Ena:
no worries-as soon as I get my kaki lima hotdog stand raking in the formaldehyde assisted dollars Im there!LOL.
if I geuss you, you're from Indonesia and then moved to Ausie...
if in Indo you usually sold the stuff in kaki lima senen arounding or manga dua or gelodok with sorth pents, am i rite ena?
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#27745 - 03 Feb 06 22:29 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
juminten Offline
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Registered: 08 Dec 05
Posts: 3870
Loc: disana-disini
Cherry, you confused again. Ena is a cute Aussie bule married to a handsome indo dude, just like Richie Gir..Ena speaks Indo and eats gado-gado!
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#27746 - 04 Feb 06 08:15 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
Ena Offline
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Registered: 26 Nov 05
Posts: 765
Loc: Sydney
And ketoprak! LOL.
Yeah cherry im a bule but my husband is a jakarta boy.
Mangga dua...minta ampun...you know I wanna eat mie tektek RIGHT NOW ......
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#27747 - 04 Feb 06 19:28 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
Jokie Jokie Girl Offline
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Registered: 07 Nov 05
Posts: 2552
Loc: Central Jakarta
Quote:
Originally posted by Ena:
And ketoprak! LOL.
Yeah cherry im a bule but my husband is a jakarta boy.
Mangga dua...minta ampun...you know I wanna eat mie tektek RIGHT NOW ......
I know...i know Ena, your hasband was neigbor..he's chinness rite? wink
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#27748 - 05 Feb 06 08:49 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
Ena Offline
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Registered: 26 Nov 05
Posts: 765
Loc: Sydney
yeah he s chinese-hakka and cantonese mixed.
but I think hes more jakartanese really - he cant really speak mandarin, only like " house " hakka/cantonese dialect. When his mum visit relatives in Hong Kong they said her cantonese was like 100 years ago-too polite and out of date. And I think only hakka people understand hakka - they usually keep to themselves like that.
So even though he is quite strong pride chinese, I think he is much more jakarta indo.He is 3rd generation there.
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#27749 - 07 Feb 06 19:42 Re: Resort & Hotel Development
chicha_lex Offline
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Registered: 07 Feb 06
Posts: 124
Loc: Saudi Arabia
Hey, I am into business, what happened to Yan's request for someone that have done resort and hotel development. I am an architect planner, cum IT Consultant cum Business Consultant and Management Consultant... smile

I can help you Yan, to understand this business, cos, I have done few in Malaysia. Heheheheee...

You name it, I got it. Multi purpose 'CLEANER', that's me... I guess my best work is the landscaping and planning of Putrajaya...

Others, clients dont have enuf money, I guess, so design left as desing...

Hahahahaaa... So, hopefully, money from Saudi Arabia (they love Bangkok, Indonesia), talent from Malaysia, labor from indonesia (oops, some talent also from indonesia, especially skilled worker, I work with some of them, and they are great, resourceful)...

How about it!!!
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