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#27146 - 25 Aug 06 15:41 domain-hosting
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Where can I buy domain n hosting in Indonesia (prefer Jakarta) who can accept credit card?

Tadaluko, Masterweb cant take CC.

thx a planet
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#27147 - 25 Aug 06 15:51 Re: domain-hosting
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Q: how many indonesian companies do you know who accept credit card payments over the internet?

A: 0.

Why: Indonesian companies cannot obtain the type of merchant credit card facilities to that would enable them to accept credit card payments without the physical presence of the card.

Why: Because Indonesia is the credit card fraud centre of the universe.


SOooooo: No, you won't be able to obtain domain and hosting services by paying by credit card over the net. You will have to fill in the form the vendors may provide, send cash to the bank account nominated, then fax the form and proof of transfer to the vendor, who will probably get back to you in a few days.
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#27148 - 25 Aug 06 15:56 Re: domain-hosting
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zero??
none???
Arrrrgh!!!

I just read these: "In India, corruption is under the table. In China, it is over the table, while in Indonesia corruption includes the table." (Asia Times article. 'The wages of corruption')

and now i got irritated with credit card stuffs in indo!
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#27149 - 25 Aug 06 16:03 Re: domain-hosting
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yep. it's a damn hassle for those of us who do business on the net.

in any case, i've almost given up with registering local .id domains; the requirements are simply ridiculous and illogical. under govt control of course. they just have no idea how much damage they are doing to the development of indonesia's economy. in a word: morons.
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#27150 - 25 Aug 06 16:08 Re: domain-hosting
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ha!
so it only happen for .id domains? .uk or .ca, etc dont need that requirements as well?

i have no idea about that cos i just like to have .com
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#27151 - 25 Aug 06 16:15 Re: domain-hosting
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hi i-beth, how are you? long time not see you smile
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#27152 - 25 Aug 06 16:25 Re: domain-hosting
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Hi JK im cool...how ru there?

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#27153 - 25 Aug 06 16:30 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by i_beth:
Hi JK im cool...how ru there?

smile
are you cool? you meant cool...coolueheu wink
well, I'm hot here laugh
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#27154 - 25 Aug 06 21:19 Re: domain-hosting
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It's cheaper to buy domains from US resellers, namecheap sells $8.88 for .com, $1.88 for .info. Plus they would be more trustworthy than local companies I'd imagine. Domain registrars are entitled to do some real funky things, legally.
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#27155 - 25 Aug 06 22:07 Re: domain-hosting
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Why would you want to pay for this type of service by credit card anyway! I would be very very wary of credit card transactions within Indo. I have returned from Holiday and have had three fraudulent transactions on one of my cards in Taiwan. The card in question was last used in JKT. Bank refunded the money but it is still a pain to complete all the paperwork!
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#27156 - 26 Aug 06 00:08 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by KuKuKaChu:
SOooooo: No, you won't be able to obtain domain and hosting services by paying by credit card over the net. You will have to fill in the form the vendors may provide, send cash to the bank account nominated, then fax the form and proof of transfer to the vendor, who will probably get back to you in a few days.
I bought hosting here once, you don't need to fax, it's all done online, after you transfer, see http://id.masterwebnet.com/confirmation.php.

By the way i_beth, beware of hosts, like the above, who offer a free domain when you purchase hosting, they may actually register it in their own company name.
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#27157 - 26 Aug 06 01:56 Re: domain-hosting
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Talking about domaim hosting, can anyone suggest which hosting company in Jakarta are good (preferable cheap). My requirement are:
1) unlimited bandwidth as I might need to setup FTP access for my client
2) unlimited email account setup for email hosting
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#27158 - 26 Aug 06 09:31 Re: domain-hosting
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frankly, i would be reluctant to use any of the hosting companies in jakarta, for a number of reasons:

1) connections to the outside world often go down. this would not make your clients happy

2) connections to the outside world are slower. better to base your server in a high bandwidth area (basically, North America, or Europe).

3) features and admin software on local systems are not as good, and often buggy.

4) local hosts won't give a fuck if their systems has problems

5) lack of transparency with handling and registration of .id domains names makes me nervous.
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#27159 - 27 Aug 06 10:55 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Why would you want to pay for this type of service by credit card anyway! I would be very very wary of credit card transactions within Indo. I have returned from Holiday and have had three fraudulent transactions on one of my cards in Taiwan. The card in question was last used in JKT. Bank refunded the money but it is still a pain to complete all the paperwork!
My business partner bought two shirts at Pasaraya shopping centre, overnight his card was copied and used to run up USD22,000 bill in JAPAN......

I suggested we go back and kick the shit out of the girl who served him, but he was Mr nice guy.

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#27160 - 27 Aug 06 10:57 Re: domain-hosting
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Welcome back son! Long time no hear. I trust all is well!
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#27161 - 27 Aug 06 11:07 Re: domain-hosting
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Im still moving so something still works smile

I didnt go anywhere, just needed some down time.

i spent NINE hours on MSN chatting to a girl who lives 8 floors below me in the same complex....

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#27162 - 27 Aug 06 17:22 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Why would you want to pay for this type of service by credit card anyway! I would be very very wary of credit card transactions within Indo. I have returned from Holiday and have had three fraudulent transactions on one of my cards in Taiwan. The card in question was last used in JKT. Bank refunded the money but it is still a pain to complete all the paperwork!
the problem is my bank account doesn't have net banking facility and I'm not in Indonesia, and somehow I need it immedieately. Transfer money will takes time frown
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#27163 - 27 Aug 06 17:24 Re: domain-hosting
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Originally posted by patung:
It's cheaper to buy domains from US resellers, namecheap sells $8.88 for .com, $1.88 for .info. Plus they would be more trustworthy than local companies I'd imagine. Domain registrars are entitled to do some real funky things, legally.
hm...where can I buy with that price? any links?
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#27164 - 27 Aug 06 17:27 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by KuKuKaChu:
frankly, i would be reluctant to use any of the hosting companies in jakarta, for a number of reasons:

1) connections to the outside world often go down. this would not make your clients happy

2) connections to the outside world are slower. better to base your server in a high bandwidth area (basically, North America, or Europe).

3) features and admin software on local systems are not as good, and often buggy.

4) local hosts won't give a fuck if their systems has problems

5) lack of transparency with handling and registration of .id domains names makes me nervous.
thx for d infos!!
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#27165 - 27 Aug 06 20:04 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
Im still moving so something still works smile

I didnt go anywhere, just needed some down time.

i spent NINE hours on MSN chatting to a girl who lives 8 floors below me in the same complex....
y do u need to b on msn for 9 hrs when the girl is just 8 flr down..i think u should just go down and swoop her up!!

just my 2 cent thought.. laugh
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#27166 - 27 Aug 06 20:07 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by KuKuKaChu:
frankly, i would be reluctant to use any of the hosting companies in jakarta, for a number of reasons:

1) connections to the outside world often go down. this would not make your clients happy

2) connections to the outside world are slower. better to base your server in a high bandwidth area (basically, North America, or Europe).

3) features and admin software on local systems are not as good, and often buggy.

4) local hosts won't give a fuck if their systems has problems

5) lack of transparency with handling and registration of .id domains names makes me nervous.
Thanks for the info...i think i might as well host it in my own country then..anyhow thanks!!
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#27167 - 27 Aug 06 23:27 Re: domain-hosting
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Quote:
Originally posted by i_beth:
Quote:
Originally posted by patung:
It's cheaper to buy domains from US resellers, namecheap sells $8.88 for .com, $1.88 for .info. Plus they would be more trustworthy than local companies I'd imagine. Domain registrars are entitled to do some real funky things, legally.
hm...where can I buy with that price? any links?
http://www.namecheap.com/
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#27168 - 28 Aug 06 14:09 Re: domain-hosting
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Just send me your address, DOB and credit card detials mate, and i will have you online in days...... smile

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#27169 - 14 Sep 06 20:12 Re: domain-hosting
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Need a porno site! See post above!
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