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#1439 - 19 Jan 06 11:20 Blue Movie Meeesta
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There are always a lot of people selling pornographic movies near Blok M. (Im surprised cos Indonesia is a Muslim country, however....).

Sometimes the stall workers are girls, some look like schoolgirls. very young.

So - how many people here have bought, or have seen, "blue movies". are they socially acceptable in mainstream life?

(I have seen a few, but not as many as most guys. On the other hand i have been the"star" in some)

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#1440 - 19 Jan 06 11:28 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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(I have seen a few, but not as many as most guys. On the other hand i have been the"star" in some)

Polar bares it all,I think i,ve seen it,
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#1441 - 19 Jan 06 11:56 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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LOL

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#1442 - 19 Jan 06 13:01 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Quote:
Originally posted by Polar Bear:
There are always a lot of people selling pornographic movies near Blok M. (Im surprised cos Indonesia is a Muslim country, however....).

Sometimes the stall workers are girls, some look like schoolgirls. very young.

So - how many people here have bought, or have seen, "blue movies". are they socially acceptable in mainstream life?

(I have seen a few, but not as many as most guys. On the other hand i have been the"star" in some)
any way, why you be related between religion and blue movie, I think that's not religious mistake but it's depend of the individual..
as we know that the all of religions in the world tought the truth to members of religious community..
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#1443 - 19 Jan 06 13:15 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Quote:
Originally posted by cherry:
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any way, why you be related between religion and blue movie, I think that's not religious mistake but it's depend of the individual..
as we know that the all of religions in the world tought the truth to members of religious community.. [/QB]
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#1444 - 19 Jan 06 17:01 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Quote:
Originally posted by JakGirl:
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Originally posted by cherry:
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any way, why you be related between religion and blue movie, I think that's not religious mistake but it's depend of the individual..
as we know that the all of religions in the world tought the truth to members of religious community..
Jawaban-mu itu gak nggenah...aku gak ngerti maksud-mu! [/QB]
well..I'll explain in bahasa..

kenapa dihubungkan antara agama dan blue movie...any way sudah baca post Pola Bear?
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#1445 - 19 Jan 06 17:06 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Islam makes many demands of its followers. watching, buying, selling or staring in pornography is not one of them.

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#1446 - 19 Jan 06 17:20 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Quote:
Originally posted by cherry:
kenapa dihubungkan antara agama dan blue movie...
I think because people from all religion like blue movie otherwise the market wouldn’t be flooded with these VCD's in Indonesia. Obviously in Indonesia people like this stuff just as anywhere else in the world.

Its just human nature I think.
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#1447 - 19 Jan 06 17:24 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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But:

1. in other Islamic parts of the world possession of pornography can mean a death sentence

2. in other countries the shops selling pornography are not staffed by 15 year old girls.

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#1448 - 19 Jan 06 19:17 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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That’s why we love Indonesia right?

We love these contradictions.

Its so cute *gurglgiglgihgihgih* smile
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#1449 - 19 Jan 06 19:55 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Yes, I dont mind/care. Im just trying ot understand.....

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#1450 - 20 Jan 06 00:32 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Originally posted by cherry:
[/qb]
well..I'll explain in bahasa..kenapa dihubungkan antara agama dan blue movie...any way sudah baca post Pola Bear? [/QB][/QUOTE]


Thats better Cherry, smile thanks..!
yep, I did read PB's post, I totaly understand what he meant, but as I said "saya susah mengerti jawabanmu" sebelum you terjemah pake bahasa Indo..thanks again!
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#1451 - 20 Jan 06 05:44 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Hey - i wrote that because its true. At Blok M they have open stalls selling pornographic movies, and some of the sellers at the stalls are CLEARLY underage girls. this would be totaly illegal and unacceptable in Australia.

Indonesia has a majority Muslim population. WHY is the roadside sale of these movies tolerated, and WHY is it accpetabler for young girls to sell the movies?

I am not attacking Islam, or attacking Indonesia, i am just pointing out what you can see any afternoon at Blok M, and asking WHY do the people of jakarta find this acceptable?????? Is this acceptable to Islam????

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#1452 - 20 Jan 06 12:44 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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maybe you can ask to people who understand very much about this case, if tyou dare!
why...why..why...????

itu bukan kesalaha dari ajaran agama islam, tapi dari individu yang bersangkutan..
jadi kamu jangan pernah menyangkut pautkan islam dengan orang-orang yang bersangkutan dengan blue movie...
JakGirl, could you help me PLZ to translate fo Pola Bear..if you don't mind
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#1453 - 20 Jan 06 12:59 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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I was hoping some of you here could tell me you opinions.

Islam is sometimes an enigma for me. I try to understand...

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#1454 - 20 Jan 06 20:50 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Nothing is acceptable in Islam, compromise does not exsist either. Even Miss Indonesia was considered Porno. I think they are just a bunch of hypocrites. I've been to manny countries but I rarally seen a country with so much free sex and perselingkuhan. Even my lawyer who was already "naik Haji" only talked about sex and the brothels he visits every week where many working girls sell their bodies in between their prayers. I'ts fucked up and I love this country for just that he he he he
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#1455 - 21 Jan 06 07:16 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Originally posted by Risad Gir:
Nothing is acceptable in Islam, compromise does not exsist either. Even Miss Indonesia was considered Porno. I think they are just a bunch of hypocrites. I've been to manny countries but I rarally seen a country with so much free sex and perselingkuhan. Even my lawyer who was already "naik Haji" only talked about sex and the brothels he visits every week where many working girls sell their bodies in between their prayers. I'ts fucked up and I love this country for just that he he he he
This is the enigma......

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#1456 - 21 Jan 06 14:07 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Quote:
Originally posted by Risad Gir:
Nothing is acceptable in Islam, compromise does not exsist either. Even Miss Indonesia was considered Porno. I think they are just a bunch of hypocrites. I've been to manny countries but I rarally seen a country with so much free sex and perselingkuhan. Even my lawyer who was already "naik Haji" only talked about sex and the brothels he visits every week where many working girls sell their bodies in between their prayers. I'ts fucked up and I love this country for just that he he he he
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#1457 - 21 Jan 06 14:32 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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you couldn't consider from one point view, because it's not a mistaken of Islam teaching.
but it's back to the inviduals, how to be understand in Islam teaching on the whole!

hopefuly you understand what Im posting here Pola, I just tried to post what I know about that..
im not any one, I just little parts from them and personally I always trying to be understand in Islam teaching on the whole...

hopefuly, there's nothing misktaken words

peace
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#1458 - 21 Jan 06 15:08 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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any way Pola Bear, here jokgirl want to try to give you some..about Islam Teaching...

I don't mint anything..really smile
hopefully it's will be answer, what became an enigma in your mind..

hey PB, long time not see you…jokgirl is came back for you!?
well...
Islam Qualities
Honesty - Perseverance - Tolerance - Firmness punctuality - Courage - Chastity Justice - Forgiveness - Faith in God - ALLAH

Ethics of Islam;

Faith and action...

Inherent Purity

The position of women Inherit purity

Equality of mankind and the brotherhood of Islam
Personal judgement
Knowledge
Sanctity of labour
Charity
Moral teaching
No priesthood
Forgiveness

one day if I have much times, I'll try to expalain one by one..if you really need about this one

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#1459 - 21 Jan 06 15:16 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Firmness punctuality - Courage - Chastity


this well i beg to differ
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#1460 - 21 Jan 06 15:34 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Thank you Cherry and Jokgirl.

i will try harder to understand.

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#1461 - 21 Jan 06 16:14 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Quote:
Originally posted by cherry:
hati-hati kalo ngomong!
Well... "be carefull when you talk!"... yepp sounds like Islam

Are you threatening me, are tellng me to shut up... young lady?
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#1462 - 21 Jan 06 17:28 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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I didnt start this thread to cause trouble.

I dont care what followers of Islam do, or what Islam says they can do, or if the two coincide.

I simply asked how many people had bought, or had seen, "blue movies". and if they were socially acceptable in mainstream life.

I do find it odd that such movies are so freely avaiable, and are sold by minors, in a country where Islam is so strong. But if everyone agrees that they are sold lets leave it at that.

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#1463 - 21 Jan 06 19:11 Re: Blue Movie Meeesta
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Quote:
Originally posted by Risad Gir:
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Originally posted by cherry:
hati-hati kalo ngomong!
Well... "be carefull when you talk!"... yepp sounds like Islam

Are you threatening me, are tellng me to shut up... young lady?
its not about young lady or old lady..
but..kenapa harus bawa-bawa haji?
secara tidak langsung kamu menyinggung kaum yang suadh haji.
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