Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta

Posted by: Rodney

Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 05 Jul 06 10:28

Hi there,

I'm a black American moving to Jakarta to pursue cultural and reportage photography. It seems when Indonesians think of westerners they think of "bules" (whites). I was curious how blacks are accepted in Jakarta in general.

My first thought was Indonesians would think I am African, but having seen some Nigerians, they look somewhat 'different' from typical black guys in the USA.

I am just curious if ladies in general (not just for rupiahs or blok m hahahaha) typically like black guys. I know the general opinion of blacks in Asia, but it does vary from country to country. smile

Thx!

Rodney
Posted by: Magpie

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 05 Jul 06 10:50

Can you tell the difference between a Korean girl and a Chinese girl? Because if you can, you will be 1 up on the indonesians...they will not have a clue where you are from. They will probably actually guess you are an American, due to the fact that there education is likley to be based around what they see on T.V.
Posted by: KuKuKaChuModerator

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 05 Jul 06 10:53

Hi rodney.

I think you're going to have a hard time here because of your race. unfortunately, africans have got a (partly deserved) reputation here as being involved in drug trafficking. the prejudice is palpable. where i live in jalan jaksa many africans come to eat and drink. they keep to their own groups, and rarely mix due to a variety of reasons: language, culture, local prejudice. girls here very much tend to avoid them.

having said that, i am certain that once girls (and guys) realised you were not an african, you may find yourself extremely popular! smile but be prepared for a lot of cold shoulders in between ...
Posted by: flora

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 05 Jul 06 11:55

Don't worry Rodney...I like Black guy and welcome to Jakarta
Posted by: Lulu

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 05 Jul 06 12:21

African American? No problemo for me, been hanged out with Japanese girl friends with their Afro American dudes! Welcome!
I Checked out your photography site, nice works Rod!
Posted by: D'ruby

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 05 Jul 06 13:22

Welcome Rodney smile
Posted by: hanabi

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 05 Jul 06 14:54

Hi Rodney! I like your pics... They're quite inspiring. As for acceptance, the only reason people can't accept you is because they can't accept themselves. Happy wandering! laugh
Posted by: Rodney

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 07 Jul 06 08:09

Hello,

Thanks for the comments and points of view. They all make sense. I figure I'll just be myself, and stick with my friends (who are Indonesians and Chineses) while I learn the culture, while branching out on my own some. smile

Thanks for viewing my photos! I'm sincerely honored you like them! smile

(btw: yes, I can tell the diff between Chinese and Koreans hahahaha).

Rodney smile
Posted by: KIM

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 07 Jul 06 08:35

hey man its allright u are african originally
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 07 Jul 06 08:55

One of the greatest things about the internet (at least until webcams became popular) was that everyone was blind.

We didn’t judge people on size, hair style, age, wrinkle count, nose shape, or colour.

It is a tragedy that life isn’t always the same.

Did you know polar bears have black skin, blue tongues and their hair isn’t white, but opaque?
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 07 Jul 06 12:16

no worries Rodney, whether you black or white its all the same to me, but the most imnportent is you're a hot one wink

so, welcome Rodney..find me here the one and only jokie jokie girl wink

cheeerr
jokie
Posted by: jok

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 07 Jul 06 12:27

Quote:
Originally posted by Rodney:
Hi there,

I'm a black American moving to Jakarta to pursue cultural and reportage photography. It seems when Indonesians think of westerners they think of "bules" (whites). I was curious how blacks are accepted in Jakarta in general.

My first thought was Indonesians would think I am African, but having seen some Nigerians, they look somewhat 'different' from typical black guys in the USA.

I am just curious if ladies in general (not just for rupiahs or blok m hahahaha) typically like black guys. I know the general opinion of blacks in Asia, but it does vary from country to country. smile

Thx!

Rodney
Hi Rodney, welcome to Jakchat!

i am not racist if i want dating a guy, don't care if he is white, black, brown or yellow, but i need to know how big & fat your wallet is! :p
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 07 Jul 06 12:47

mee too Ela wink
Posted by: Rodney

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 10:04

Hahahahaha,

Sorry, I'm poor hahahahahahaha smile
Posted by: KuKuKaChuModerator

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 10:11

Quote:
Originally posted by Rodney:
Hahahahaha,

Sorry, I'm poor hahahahahahaha smile
oh dear. in that case, you definitely won't be popular with Ela ... or wallet-digga' ... or cherry ... or lulu ... or ruby ... <strike> or jokgirl </strike> ...
Posted by: Patung

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 10:31

or most women in the world... frown
Posted by: KuKuKaChuModerator

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 10:34

Quote:
Originally posted by patung:
or most women in the world... frown
yes, but western women hide it better under veils of pseudo-sophistication ...
Posted by: Choc_Cow

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 11:47

Rodney.. do you by any chance have wealthy parents who're planning pass all their inheritance to you? Lol.. you still have hopes..

Btw i saw laluna's comment and went to check your site. OMG! you're brilliant

i like the Renaissance Stone Stairs with the ivy ,it's so beautiful!!

It looked as though a bouquet has been left there by nature, to commemorate the place..
Posted by: KuKuKaChuModerator

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 12:04

Quote:
Originally posted by Chocolatea:
i like the Renaissance Stone Stairs with the ivy ,it's so beautiful!!

It looked as though a bouquet has been left there by nature, to commemorate the place..
ah, just a bunch of old rocks and some weeds ...


wink
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 12:05

Quote:
Originally posted by Rodney:
Hahahahaha,

Sorry, I'm poor hahahahahahaha smile
NEVER EVER EVER EVER say that to an Indo girl....

Just say you are disgustingly rich but mean. Thety will stick to you like glue, hoping to marry you.....
Posted by: KuKuKaChuModerator

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 12:37

Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
Quote:
Originally posted by Rodney:
Hahahahaha,

Sorry, I'm poor hahahahahahaha smile
NEVER EVER EVER EVER say that to an Indo girl....

Just say you are disgustingly rich but mean. Thety will stick to you like glue, hoping to marry you.....
i can think of much worse things than being married to an indonesian girl ...
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 13:10

Quote:
Originally posted by Rodney:
Hahahahaha,

Sorry, I'm poor hahahahahahaha smile
so, why you come to indonesia then confused
mau jadi gelandangan di indo...!
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 13:13

Quote:
Originally posted by patung:
or most women in the world... frown
yups, Except me wink
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 13:17

Quote:
Originally posted by KuKuKaChu:
Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
Quote:
Originally posted by Rodney:
Hahahahaha,

Sorry, I'm poor hahahahahahaha smile
NEVER EVER EVER EVER say that to an Indo girl....

Just say you are disgustingly rich but mean. Thety will stick to you like glue, hoping to marry you.....
i can think of much worse things than being married to an indonesian girl ...
HEY I agree entirely. I think, should I ever get married again, it would be to an Indonesian woman. I can think of no better wife, lover or partner.

I live in an apartment complex full of young Indo girls 9and boys) and their pure enthusiasm for life, and general sense of fun, is infectious. If you get into the lift and everyone is laughing, you know they are Indonesian.

one day the men of the world will wake up to what they are missing out on......
Posted by: Piss Salon

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 14:36

Not just the kids, but most Indonesians in general. Even those at the bottom of the dung heap can smile about their shitty situation. Even after disasters – Aceh, Yogya – the poor buggers can still smile and joke among themselves. Shows a certain resilience. Particularly the Acehnese.

Not just the kids, but most Indonesians in general. Even those at the bottom of the dung heap can smile about their shitty situation. Even after disasters – Aceh, Yogya – the poor buggers can still smile and joke among themselves. Shows a certain resilience. Particularly the Acehnese.

I want to marry one myself but feel apprehensive about inflicting myself on her for the rest of her life.
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 15:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Piss Salon:
Not just the kids, but most Indonesians in general. Even those at the bottom of the dung heap can smile about their shitty situation. Even after disasters – Aceh, Yogya – the poor buggers can still smile and joke among themselves. Shows a certain resilience. Particularly the Acehnese.

Not just the kids, but most Indonesians in general. Even those at the bottom of the dung heap can smile about their shitty situation. Even after disasters – Aceh, Yogya – the poor buggers can still smile and joke among themselves. Shows a certain resilience. Particularly the Acehnese.

I want to marry one myself but feel apprehensive about inflicting myself on her for the rest of her life.
There is as bloody echo in here

There is as bloody echo in here

There is as bloody echo in here
Posted by: Lulu

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 15:14

Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
Quote:
Originally posted by Rodney:
Hahahahaha,

Sorry, I'm poor hahahahahahaha smile
NEVER EVER EVER EVER say that to an Indo girl....

Just say you are disgustingly rich but mean. Thety will stick to you like glue, hoping to marry you.....
Just say to me you full of love, nice, kind and gentle, only a bit rich, a muscle toned body, a good stamina, and has a nice healty good size of sausage, I will stick to you like glue, hoping to marry you.... laugh
My hot dude did that, and now I stuck with him forever.... :p
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 15:15

Congratulations LuLu

(cross her off the list boys.....)
Posted by: Lulu

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 15:22

Oh, I was on the list? I never thought about it, somemore with my reputation as a skinny banci?! Tell me PB, since when my name was on the list.... :p
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 08 Jul 06 15:22

basicly the indonesians people are friendly and alaways cheerrss..they never show the sadness eves many disasters.. smile
Posted by: Rodney

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 09 Jul 06 05:40

LOL Ok,I'm not poor. smile Just a nice guy. )
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 09 Jul 06 15:00

Quote:
Originally posted by laluna:
Oh, I was on the list? I never thought about it, somemore with my reputation as a skinny banci?! Tell me PB, since when my name was on the list.... :p
Hey, even skinny Bancis go on the list.... smile
Posted by: D'ruby

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 09 Jul 06 17:16

The Polar Bear's list smile
Posted by: Dilli

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 09 Jul 06 21:01

Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
Hey, even skinny Bancis go on the list.... smile

What kind of list may this be my furry friend! Refresh my memory! Was there a Fruedian slip there?
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 09 Jul 06 21:04

Quote:
Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Quote:
Originally posted by The One and Only Polar Bear:
Hey, even skinny Bancis go on the list.... smile


What kind of list may this be my furry friend! Refresh my memory! Was there a Fruedian slip there?
The list of people who Scotsmen might offer a haggis to?
Posted by: Dilli

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 09 Jul 06 21:13

We do not offer our Haggis to anyone!
Posted by: Polar Bear

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 09 Jul 06 22:06

The old "refusal may offend" line.

Oil Dude: Hello Darling, would you like a little Haggis"?

Ayam: "no thanks, I roll my own"
Posted by: Macan Tutul

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 10 Jul 06 09:33

Rodney you came to the right place...I mean the right stage of drama..... laugh please enjoy and welcome..... wink
Posted by: dutch_guy

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 15:36

Indo girls really love black guys but many are afraid to walk with one cos of the talking etc. Black is seen as inferior by part of the indonesian people Also the reputation of the nigerians doesn't do good. This is why many girls don't take a black guy openly. But secretly many indo girls have black lovers. Most indo girls are extremely curious about black guys and if what they have hanging btw the legs is really so huge.

MOreover most black guys are tall and goodlooking and that is what most indo girls are looking for.
Posted by: jok

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 15:49

Cr@p!!
Posted by: chewwyUK

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 15:52

"Moreover most black guys are tall and goodlooking" ... hmmmm you have not met my friend fat tony
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 15:53

Quote:
Originally posted by dutch_guy:
MOreover most black guys are tall and goodlooking and that is what most indo girls are looking for.
maksud lhooooo confused
Posted by: KuKuKaChuModerator

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 15:59

poor dutch guy.

poor, poor dutch guy.
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:06

Quote:
Originally posted by chewwyUK:
"Moreover most black guys are tall and goodlooking" ... hmmmm you have not met my friend fat tony
well, I just hear from my friend that black guys are tall and also have the biggest sauasage then the white guys..
only big but no strength laugh
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:12

Big sausage with no strength .... a bad combination !
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:18

Quote:
Originally posted by Hi_john:
Big sausage with no strength .... a bad combination !
yoi choi wink in bahasa says; menang di gede doang, tapi kekuatannya kagek ade laugh
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:24

And in English we say ... Mr. Floppy!
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:41

Quote:
Originally posted by Hi_john:
And in English we say ... Mr. Floppy!
laugh and arey you one of them hi_jhon wink
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:45

In terms of colour, size or strength ?
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:49

Quote:
Originally posted by Hi_john:
In terms of colour, size or strength ?
both of lah..size and also strength wink
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 16:54

Be careful not to break your fast with innapropriate thoughts !
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:04

hmmmm..I'm not fasting today, so that's why I talking too much about sausage and size yay yay yay
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:10

Oh I see. Well size is relative of course Jokie
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:11

What is big for some girls maybe like waving a stick in a railway tunnel for others
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:13

Quote:
Originally posted by Hi_john:
Oh I see. Well size is relative of course Jokie
as i said, so many times ago..size it's not important..but the most important is how to play it wink laugh
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:15

And I bet you are an expert at that eh?
Posted by: Jokie Jokie Girl

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:46

hmmmmm...not really expert but atleast I know how to make you get multiple orgazm shoot smile
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:48

Is there a secret method .... please tell me more
Posted by: Hi_john

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 28 Sep 06 17:50

You should start a new thread "secrets to multiple orgasm" .... that would be a lively discussion
Posted by: krismon krustie

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 22 Oct 06 11:23

I remember thinking about this issue when I was first in Indoesia, when I first worked out what 'bule' meant -- though the term 'orang asing' was still much used then.
I used to wonder how the Indonesians would figure a bunch of Australian aboriginals: 'bule' means 'white' -- but it means 'foreign'-- the simplest of binaries. They would, logically, have to have accepted them as . . . white!?

Mark (krismon krustie)
Posted by: KuKuKaChuModerator

Re: Acceptance of Non-white Westerners In Jakarta - 22 Oct 06 12:20

bule is used exclusively for white westerners. thus an australian aboriginal would never be called a bule. he'd be called an orang hitam.

also, bule -- or bulai in standard Indonesian -- does not actually mean white; it means albino.