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#73907 - 16 Apr 08 03:17 Am I getting blacklisted??
Brown Bear Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 67
Loc: Kalimantan
Help!!
I need some opinion here! I'm currently sitting in CGK waiting for a flight out of the country, but just had a terrible experience at the passport control. To save pages in my passport I had taken out some of the old VoA stickers, but this made the officers mad. They even told me things like this can land me in jail blah blah, big fines, bla blah. But after a while they let me go with a warning. No bribes paid. But one of the officer (they were really crowding around me) didn't want me to go that easily, he wrote down my passport details and said I would be blacklisted from ever coming here again. For sure I will come again, next week already, but now I am very scared.. don't know if it was just to frighten me or if it is real. Anybody know if they can blacklist me just because I took out some old visa stickers??

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#73910 - 16 Apr 08 06:21 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
KuKuKaChu Administrator Online   confused
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 7751
Loc: Jakarta
silly boy. you should not ever mess with your passport like that. most countries of the world see it as their right to know where you have been. and where you have been deported from. and yes, they *can* blacklist you for whatever reason they wish.

welcome to indonesia.
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#73919 - 16 Apr 08 08:41 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: KuKuKaChu]
chewwyUK Online   shocked
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Registered: 14 Sep 06
Posts: 2154
Loc: Jakarta
You will just have to see when you try to get back in. Tampering with a passport is never a good idea and will cause you trouble in most countries you visit. My advice would be if they let you in then get a new passport ... and don't touch it again.
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#73922 - 16 Apr 08 09:12 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: chewwyUK]
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Better still, get a new passport before you return.....
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#73928 - 16 Apr 08 10:03 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Dilli]
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You'll probably get back in OK. The computers at passport control usually don't seem to be even plugged in. Are they just there for effect Ku? Or do they actually have some accessible records on them?
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#73939 - 16 Apr 08 10:53 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Roy's Hair]
kris Offline
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Registered: 20 Feb 08
Posts: 13
Loc: USA
Yes, it's probably too late now, but one never tampers with one's passport, that can get you in trouble anywhere. I have heard that in Nigeria it is customary to staple all your passports, past and present, together, so they can be presented for inspection when entering Western countries especially wary of Nigerians...


Edited by kris (16 Apr 08 11:12)

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#73948 - 16 Apr 08 11:32 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
Brown Bear Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 67
Loc: Kalimantan
Hello folks!
I'm in a little bit better mood now \:\)
I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page!
Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome...
Thanks for all the opinions by the way! \:\)

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#73952 - 16 Apr 08 13:07 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
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Registered: 11 Mar 08
Posts: 877
Loc: Bogor
 Originally Posted By: kirun
Hello folks!
I'm in a little bit better mood now \:\)
I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page!
Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome...
Thanks for all the opinions by the way! \:\)


Professional as ever ,the embassy staff....
It really is a sick joke though the way they make every visa, even the piece of shit VoA, a full page slab...

hope u get some rest kirun, been a busy morning.
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#73954 - 16 Apr 08 13:22 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
Pujangga Besar

Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
 Originally Posted By: kirun
Help!!
I need some opinion here! I'm currently sitting in CGK waiting for a flight out of the country, but just had a terrible experience at the passport control. To save pages in my passport I had taken out some of the old VoA stickers, but this made the officers mad. They even told me things like this can land me in jail blah blah, big fines, bla blah. But after a while they let me go with a warning. No bribes paid. But one of the officer (they were really crowding around me) didn't want me to go that easily, he wrote down my passport details and said I would be blacklisted from ever coming here again. For sure I will come again, next week already, but now I am very scared.. don't know if it was just to frighten me or if it is real. Anybody know if they can blacklist me just because I took out some old visa stickers??


You are obviously thick.
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#73955 - 16 Apr 08 13:25 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
Pujangga Besar

Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
 Originally Posted By: kirun
Hello folks!
I'm in a little bit better mood now \:\)
I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page!
Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome...
Thanks for all the opinions by the way! \:\)


Your not back in yet. The fun starts when then scan the passport at the airport.
And the computers do work.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#73957 - 16 Apr 08 13:48 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 11 Mar 08
Posts: 877
Loc: Bogor
 Originally Posted By: Capt. Mainwaring
 Originally Posted By: kirun
Hello folks!
I'm in a little bit better mood now \:\)
I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page!
Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome...
Thanks for all the opinions by the way! \:\)


Your not back in yet. The fun starts when then scan the passport at the airport.
And the computers do work.


Shucks Cap'n...could have at least let him enjoy his time in lovely manila...gonna be a nervous wreck now...the price of being thick i guess...
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#73960 - 16 Apr 08 14:16 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: witty handle]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
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Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
Well take the visa out but leave the entry stamps, just how stupid can you be? I mean even Panda Bear isn't that stupid.......

Can you imagine gravy brain here getting back to CGK and his old mate being on duty? And perlease forgive the failure to include the apostophe.

Whoops, Panda Bear.


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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik

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#73970 - 16 Apr 08 16:14 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
viperaberushitam Offline
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Registered: 31 Oct 07
Posts: 1717
Loc: Somebody's watching me......
 Originally Posted By: kirun
Hello folks!
I'm in a little bit better mood now \:\)
I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page!
Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome...
Thanks for all the opinions by the way! \:\)



Stay in Manila and have a new passport processed, you would be a lot better off and much less likely to be picked up. If you do come back with the same passport and same missing stickers they could easily pick you out and put your ass right back on the plane that brought you in..........just get a new passport and chalk it up to a lesson learned. You don't believe they will give you the same hassle when you leave a few months from now?
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#73976 - 16 Apr 08 16:58 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: viperaberushitam]
Brown Bear Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 67
Loc: Kalimantan
Wish it was that simple. Getting a new passport is a major hassle for me, as it has to be sent from my country to the embassy where it is applied, none of the embassies can issue it directly. Going to take a month minimum. That's why I chose to take the risk in the first place... a risk greater than what I imagined though..

I think I'm just going to take the chance and get to Jakarta, bribe my way through if necessary, then apply for a new passport there. I simply can't stay for weeks in Manila.

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#73978 - 16 Apr 08 17:25 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
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Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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Sorry, second time in one day.


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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#73983 - 16 Apr 08 19:35 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Brown Bear]
viperaberushitam Offline
Pujangga Muda

Registered: 31 Oct 07
Posts: 1717
Loc: Somebody's watching me......
 Originally Posted By: kirun
Wish it was that simple. Getting a new passport is a major hassle for me, as it has to be sent from my country to the embassy where it is applied, none of the embassies can issue it directly. Going to take a month minimum. That's why I chose to take the risk in the first place... a risk greater than what I imagined though..

I think I'm just going to take the chance and get to Jakarta, bribe my way through if necessary, then apply for a new passport there. I simply can't stay for weeks in Manila.


Fair enough but then I would go via Singapore and come over on the ferry and avoid some of the asses in Jakarta or Bali. When sitting in that position you are in with them possibly remembering you from when you left you should truly try and avoid Jakarta and let's face it Bali is already know for it's Immigration Assholes..........
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#73985 - 16 Apr 08 19:42 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 12
Loc: Walmington-on-Sea
 Originally Posted By: Capt. Mainwaring
Sorry, second time in one day.


You're not going to do anything hasty, are you, sir?

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#73986 - 16 Apr 08 19:54 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Sgt. Wilson]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
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Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
 Originally Posted By: Sgt. Wilson
 Originally Posted By: Capt. Mainwaring
Sorry, second time in one day.


You're not going to do anything hasty, are you, sir?


Don't be so ridiculous Wilson.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#73987 - 16 Apr 08 19:55 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Sgt. Wilson]
kris Offline
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Registered: 20 Feb 08
Posts: 13
Loc: USA
Hey, are you saying that immigration is worse in CGK than DPS? I was under the impression that since mostly tourists go to DPS (as opposed to expats in CGK), they might hassle you less in Bali...

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#73989 - 16 Apr 08 20:01 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
Sgt. Wilson Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 12
Loc: Walmington-on-Sea
 Originally Posted By: Capt. Mainwaring
 Originally Posted By: Sgt. Wilson
 Originally Posted By: Capt. Mainwaring
Sorry, second time in one day.


You're not going to do anything hasty, are you, sir?


Don't be so ridiculous Wilson.


If I may say so, sir, I think we should be very diplomatic with him.

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#73992 - 16 Apr 08 20:17 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Sgt. Wilson]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
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Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
That's as maybe Wilson, but we don't have all day, look smart about it.


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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik

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#73994 - 16 Apr 08 20:24 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: kris]
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Registered: 11 Mar 08
Posts: 877
Loc: Bogor
 Originally Posted By: kris
Hey, are you saying that immigration is worse in CGK than DPS? I was under the impression that since mostly tourists go to DPS (as opposed to expats in CGK), they might hassle you less in Bali...


penang to medan on the ferry's the thing to do..sweet as kittens immigration at belawan port and well-known too for their staunch anti-corruption policy--couldn't give 'em a bribe if you tried
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#73996 - 16 Apr 08 20:47 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
Sgt. Wilson Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 12
Loc: Walmington-on-Sea
 Originally Posted By: Capt. Mainwaring
That's as maybe Wilson, but we don't have all day, look smart about it.


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#73998 - 16 Apr 08 22:04 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Sgt. Wilson]
Dilli Administrator Offline
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Sniggers at the new member
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#73999 - 16 Apr 08 22:29 Re: Am I getting blacklisted?? [Re: Dilli]
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Registered: 16 Aug 06
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 Originally Posted By: Dilli
Sniggers at the new member


The funny one was Panda Bear, first mention of Chappaquiddick bridge and "he" was off.
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