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#73907 - 16 Apr 08 03:17
Am I getting blacklisted??
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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Help!!
I need some opinion here! I'm currently sitting in CGK waiting for a flight out of the country, but just had a terrible experience at the passport control. To save pages in my passport I had taken out some of the old VoA stickers, but this made the officers mad. They even told me things like this can land me in jail blah blah, big fines, bla blah. But after a while they let me go with a warning. No bribes paid. But one of the officer (they were really crowding around me) didn't want me to go that easily, he wrote down my passport details and said I would be blacklisted from ever coming here again. For sure I will come again, next week already, but now I am very scared.. don't know if it was just to frighten me or if it is real. Anybody know if they can blacklist me just because I took out some old visa stickers??
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#73910 - 16 Apr 08 06:21
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 7467
Loc: Jakarta
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silly boy. you should not ever mess with your passport like that. most countries of the world see it as their right to know where you have been. and where you have been deported from. and yes, they *can* blacklist you for whatever reason they wish.
welcome to indonesia.
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#73919 - 16 Apr 08 08:41
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Pujangga
Registered: 14 Sep 06
Posts: 2104
Loc: Jakarta
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You will just have to see when you try to get back in. Tampering with a passport is never a good idea and will cause you trouble in most countries you visit. My advice would be if they let you in then get a new passport ... and don't touch it again.
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#73928 - 16 Apr 08 10:03
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Dilli]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 08 Nov 06
Posts: 3594
Loc: jakarta
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You'll probably get back in OK. The computers at passport control usually don't seem to be even plugged in. Are they just there for effect Ku? Or do they actually have some accessible records on them?
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#73948 - 16 Apr 08 11:32
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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Hello folks! I'm in a little bit better mood now  I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page! Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome... Thanks for all the opinions by the way!
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#73952 - 16 Apr 08 13:07
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Registered: 11 Mar 08
Posts: 776
Loc: Bogor
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Hello folks! I'm in a little bit better mood now I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page!Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome... Thanks for all the opinions by the way! Professional as ever ,the embassy staff.... It really is a sick joke though the way they make every visa, even the piece of shit VoA, a full page slab... hope u get some rest kirun, been a busy morning.
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#73954 - 16 Apr 08 13:22
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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Help!!
I need some opinion here! I'm currently sitting in CGK waiting for a flight out of the country, but just had a terrible experience at the passport control. To save pages in my passport I had taken out some of the old VoA stickers, but this made the officers mad. They even told me things like this can land me in jail blah blah, big fines, bla blah. But after a while they let me go with a warning. No bribes paid. But one of the officer (they were really crowding around me) didn't want me to go that easily, he wrote down my passport details and said I would be blacklisted from ever coming here again. For sure I will come again, next week already, but now I am very scared.. don't know if it was just to frighten me or if it is real. Anybody know if they can blacklist me just because I took out some old visa stickers??
You are obviously thick.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#73955 - 16 Apr 08 13:25
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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Hello folks! I'm in a little bit better mood now I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page! Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome... Thanks for all the opinions by the way! Your not back in yet. The fun starts when then scan the passport at the airport. And the computers do work.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#73957 - 16 Apr 08 13:48
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 11 Mar 08
Posts: 776
Loc: Bogor
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Hello folks! I'm in a little bit better mood now I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page! Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome... Thanks for all the opinions by the way! Your not back in yet. The fun starts when then scan the passport at the airport. And the computers do work. Shucks Cap'n...could have at least let him enjoy his time in lovely manila...gonna be a nervous wreck now...the price of being thick i guess...
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#73970 - 16 Apr 08 16:14
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Muda
Registered: 31 Oct 07
Posts: 1563
Loc: Somebody's watching me......
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Hello folks! I'm in a little bit better mood now I am in Manila now. I just went to the Indonesian embassy here to get a social visa (sosial budaya), and they didn't even notice the missing stickers, even though they examined the passport page by page! Going to pick it up on Monday... and flying back to CGK next Thursday! Will let ya know the outcome... Thanks for all the opinions by the way! Stay in Manila and have a new passport processed, you would be a lot better off and much less likely to be picked up. If you do come back with the same passport and same missing stickers they could easily pick you out and put your ass right back on the plane that brought you in..........just get a new passport and chalk it up to a lesson learned. You don't believe they will give you the same hassle when you leave a few months from now?
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You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
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#73976 - 16 Apr 08 16:58
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: viperaberushitam]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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Wish it was that simple. Getting a new passport is a major hassle for me, as it has to be sent from my country to the embassy where it is applied, none of the embassies can issue it directly. Going to take a month minimum. That's why I chose to take the risk in the first place... a risk greater than what I imagined though..
I think I'm just going to take the chance and get to Jakarta, bribe my way through if necessary, then apply for a new passport there. I simply can't stay for weeks in Manila.
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#73978 - 16 Apr 08 17:25
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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What makes me laugh? Maybe you Sorry, second time in one day.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#73983 - 16 Apr 08 19:35
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Muda
Registered: 31 Oct 07
Posts: 1563
Loc: Somebody's watching me......
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Wish it was that simple. Getting a new passport is a major hassle for me, as it has to be sent from my country to the embassy where it is applied, none of the embassies can issue it directly. Going to take a month minimum. That's why I chose to take the risk in the first place... a risk greater than what I imagined though..
I think I'm just going to take the chance and get to Jakarta, bribe my way through if necessary, then apply for a new passport there. I simply can't stay for weeks in Manila.
Fair enough but then I would go via Singapore and come over on the ferry and avoid some of the asses in Jakarta or Bali. When sitting in that position you are in with them possibly remembering you from when you left you should truly try and avoid Jakarta and let's face it Bali is already know for it's Immigration Assholes..........
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You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
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#73985 - 16 Apr 08 19:42
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 12
Loc: Walmington-on-Sea
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Sorry, second time in one day. You're not going to do anything hasty, are you, sir?
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#73986 - 16 Apr 08 19:54
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Sgt. Wilson]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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Sorry, second time in one day. You're not going to do anything hasty, are you, sir? Don't be so ridiculous Wilson.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#73989 - 16 Apr 08 20:01
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 12
Loc: Walmington-on-Sea
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Sorry, second time in one day. You're not going to do anything hasty, are you, sir? Don't be so ridiculous Wilson. If I may say so, sir, I think we should be very diplomatic with him.
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#73994 - 16 Apr 08 20:24
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: kris]
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Registered: 11 Mar 08
Posts: 776
Loc: Bogor
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Hey, are you saying that immigration is worse in CGK than DPS? I was under the impression that since mostly tourists go to DPS (as opposed to expats in CGK), they might hassle you less in Bali... penang to medan on the ferry's the thing to do..sweet as kittens immigration at belawan port and well-known too for their staunch anti-corruption policy--couldn't give 'em a bribe if you tried
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#73999 - 16 Apr 08 22:29
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Dilli]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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Sniggers at the new member The funny one was Panda Bear, first mention of Chappaquiddick bridge and "he" was off.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#74381 - 21 Apr 08 09:42
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Sgt. Wilson]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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My new 60 days sosbud visa just came out fresh from the embassy! Guess it's safe to assume that I'm not on a sort of black list then... but to make my way into Indonesia bullet proof, I'm going to take the ferry to Batam.
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#74386 - 21 Apr 08 10:17
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Roy's Hair]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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have a look out for this while you are there:  haha! sorry, I'm not into bencongs! They freak me out ever since I got sucked by one as a naive first-timer to Bali 11 years ago!
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#74411 - 21 Apr 08 12:57
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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My new 60 days sosbud visa just came out fresh from the embassy! Guess it's safe to assume that I'm not on a sort of black list then... but to make my way into Indonesia bullet proof, I'm going to take the ferry to Batam. Why not swim across? 100 % guaranteed.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#74871 - 24 Apr 08 16:56
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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I'm a fucking idiot. Yes, I know that. But I'm also a lucky idiot! I finally made it to Batam, and I truly recommend to everybody having something to hide to enter through this port. Imigrasi just looked at the page with the visa and stamped it promptly! No entering of any data into any computer system. They didn't even bother to look at the passport ID page! I could just as well have entered using somebody else's passport... Haha! Well, it's great to be back in a great country, and Batam is not a bad place to spend a night or two either!
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#74886 - 24 Apr 08 17:08
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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Oh well, we will have to wait until you extend it before you get slung out - you aren't Polish are you?
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#74890 - 24 Apr 08 17:13
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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Oh well, we will have to wait until you extend it before you get slung out - you aren't Polish are you? Captain, please don't ruin my good mood now I am in for a beer I guess very soon. Nope, not Polish.
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#74893 - 24 Apr 08 17:17
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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OK, take "polish" as being east european.
If not - Fillipino ?
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#74894 - 24 Apr 08 17:17
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Muda
Registered: 31 Oct 07
Posts: 1563
Loc: Somebody's watching me......
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He is beng nice, you don't want to hear about what they do to you before you are slung out. Do the smart thing, prepare all the needed paperwork, leave like you came in and go get a new passport.......
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You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
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#74898 - 24 Apr 08 17:24
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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OK, take "polish" as being east european.
If not - Fillipino ? No again. West european.
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#74900 - 24 Apr 08 17:29
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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West European? and you can't get a passport without waiting?
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#74902 - 24 Apr 08 17:34
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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West European? and you can't get a passport without waiting?
True. I can, however, get an emergency passport on the spot, but it's not of much use, just for tourists in need of a paper to get home. They make passports so advanced nowadays, so they subcontract the making of them to a company with the right equipment.
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#74903 - 24 Apr 08 17:35
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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Got to be a cloggy.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#78789 - 06 Jun 08 16:46
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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And finally, here is the (happy) end of the story:
I went to the imigrasi two days ago, filled in a form to apply for an extension, and submitted it together with the passport. Put a big innocent smile on my face and my best bahasa indo. Spent 30 minutes. Was asked to return today.
And after spending one hour at imigrasi today (waiting, and being interviewed by an officer), I was able to pick up my passport with the extension. A very smooth process. Guess it helps to apply in a relatively small city.
Price: 10k for the form, 250k for the visa extension, and free use of the photocopy machine.
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#78790 - 06 Jun 08 16:46
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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And finally, here is the (happy) end of the story:
I went to the imigrasi two days ago, filled in a form to apply for an extension, and submitted it together with the passport. Put a big innocent smile on my face and my best bahasa indo. Spent 30 minutes. Was asked to return today.
And after spending one hour at imigrasi today (waiting, and being interviewed by an officer), I was able to pick up my passport with the extension. A very smooth process. Guess it helps to apply in a relatively small city.
Price: 10k for the form, 250k for the visa extension, and free use of the photocopy machine.
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#78794 - 06 Jun 08 17:40
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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A big innocent (read dopy looking) is the only sort of smile I suspect you possess.
So now you have the visa extension, are you going to tear the page out?
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#78795 - 06 Jun 08 17:48
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Pujangga Muda
Registered: 31 Oct 07
Posts: 1563
Loc: Somebody's watching me......
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A big innocent (read dopy looking) is the only sort of smile I suspect you possess.
So now you have the visa extension, are you going to tear the page out? Hopefully your wise advice Capt, has lead this wayward soul to chive his "happy ending"...........
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You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
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#78796 - 06 Jun 08 17:58
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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A big innocent (read dopy looking) is the only sort of smile I suspect you possess.
So now you have the visa extension, are you going to tear the page out? Unfortunately, visa stamps cannot be teared out. Vista stickers, on the other hand, can be teared out. I never said I tear out any pages from any document.
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#78797 - 06 Jun 08 18:19
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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A big innocent (read dopy looking) is the only sort of smile I suspect you possess.
So now you have the visa extension, are you going to tear the page out? Unfortunately, visa stamps cannot be teared out. Vista stickers, on the other hand, can be teared out. I never said I tear out any pages from any document. Kirun, you are a spanner, you are a disgrace to buledom. Why not change the date on the stamp then and colour it in with a happy smiley face? Please tell me where you come from so I can at least gloat about that too.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#78798 - 06 Jun 08 18:25
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Apr 08
Posts: 65
Loc: Kalimantan
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A big innocent (read dopy looking) is the only sort of smile I suspect you possess.
So now you have the visa extension, are you going to tear the page out? Unfortunately, visa stamps cannot be teared out. Vista stickers, on the other hand, can be teared out. I never said I tear out any pages from any document. Kirun, you are a spanner, you are a disgrace to buledom. Why not change the date on the stamp then and colour it in with a happy smiley face? Please tell me where you come from so I can at least gloat about that too. haha, do you think I want to put disgrace to my country as well? Sorry capt.
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#78799 - 06 Jun 08 19:10
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Brown Bear]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3668
Loc: here
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A big innocent (read dopy looking) is the only sort of smile I suspect you possess.
So now you have the visa extension, are you going to tear the page out? Unfortunately, visa stamps cannot be teared out. Vista stickers, on the other hand, can be teared out. I never said I tear out any pages from any document. Kirun, you are a spanner, you are a disgrace to buledom. Why not change the date on the stamp then and colour it in with a happy smiley face? Please tell me where you come from so I can at least gloat about that too. haha, do you think I want to put disgrace to my country as well? Sorry capt. Well at least we agree on something Kirun.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik
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#78820 - 07 Jun 08 10:05
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 27 Jun 06
Posts: 3165
Loc: Jakpus
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"haha, do you think I want to put disgrace to my country as well?"
Dutch/German
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"They were all on the bedroom floor covered in sweat, their stiffened purple tallywhackers pointing in every direction."
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#78823 - 07 Jun 08 10:15
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: Piss Salon]
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Pujangga Besar
Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 7467
Loc: Jakarta
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Belgia?
actually, hard to tell the difference. they're all anal retentive and humourless ...
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KuKuKaChu: dangerously too sophisticated
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#78827 - 07 Jun 08 10:30
Re: Am I getting blacklisted??
[Re: KuKuKaChu]
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