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#73256 - 09 Apr 08 07:39 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
MbakAditya Offline
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 Originally Posted By: sartu
"A few weeks ago" was St Patricks Day. And we DID then hit the Highlander after that round of disappointing drinks..a typical selection of whisky there too, so i settled for Bushmills (it WAS St patricks day...) But the service was great there, prob because they are starving for business, but we dug it.

Ha...I was probably the only one standing at the bar with a smile on my face (when i walked up at least!) Thanks Chewwy, but im not sure I really need a primer on proper bar etiquette. But I did have higher expectations given the 'foreign ownership' and relatively strong marketing campaign compared to other pubs.

Another weird issue was how the money was handled. Seems like all the cash was held in a location in the back of the bar. When I paid (and then when the others in my party paid), the bartender took the cash to back of the building somewhere and we each waited a few munited for our change. kinda annoying too, but maybe it had something to do with the St Particks Day events, i dont know.

Anyways...the food looked good...


Do you know, I thought we had got away with "Bejesus , top of the milk to you Sir, and a fine St Patricks day it is too", this year.

An even of non-stop entertainment by Shane McGowan and his performing burnt out village.

Did the other members of your party have any complaints about the victuals served and the measures thereof?

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#73257 - 09 Apr 08 07:49 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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F you MbakAditya. The bartender didnt short me because of any attitude of mine. I didnt even get to relate similar issues my friends faced that same night (who ordered their drinks before the bartender knew they were with me). My two 'local' friends got poor service too. Oh, and none of us are students, not sure where u got that.

And i didnt moan as much there to the manager because it seemed like everyone working were running around the house and i just didnt care enough at the time to make a big deal of it once it had already happened. If I has asked to talk to the owner/manager, you would have commented here that i had an inflated sense of self-worth by asking for the manager, ya?

And i didnt go neat because jakarta is fuckin hot. I like ice, mo'fo'. And if you're affiliated with EP, I'll surely stay away now, unless its to meet you face to face, punk. My g'friend can throw a mean punch too.

Bartelle has a couple fun establishements so i figured EP would be the same or better. Sorry Lens. Maybe it was just a few bad apples.


Edited by sartu (09 Apr 08 07:58)
Edit Reason: lens, lars same thing

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#73259 - 09 Apr 08 07:53 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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Im surprised you liked the highlander as I find there is little or no atmosphere to be found there. The owner is a complete bastard who really has done some questionable things with his staff and was also known to his short measures, watering of the drinks and reduction of food portions.

As for the money going to somewhere else I seem to remember it's exactly the same practice at the highlander. I think a lot of Jakarta landlords seem to think it's safer having one person work the cash register than have 10 girls with access to all the money.

Happy drinking ... although you should switch to vodka
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#73260 - 09 Apr 08 07:56 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: chewwyUK]
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 Originally Posted By: chewwyUK
Im surprised you liked the highlander as I find there is little or no atmosphere to be found there. The owner is a complete bastard who really has done some questionable things with his staff and was also known to his short measures, watering of the drinks and reduction of food portions.

As for the money going to somewhere else I seem to remember it's exactly the same practice at the highlander. I think a lot of Jakarta landlords seem to think it's safer having one person work the cash register than have 10 girls with access to all the money.

Happy drinking ... although you should switch to vodka


ha, i switched to scotch a few years ago FROM vodka...little did i know I'd be living in a land in which good single malts are so scarce \:\(

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#73261 - 09 Apr 08 07:58 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: chewwyUK]
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Wow .. seems like that captain Mbak can't go a single day without having somebody want to give him her a punch in the face.
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#73262 - 09 Apr 08 08:06 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: chewwyUK]
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 Originally Posted By: chewwyUK
Im surprised you liked the highlander as I find there is little or no atmosphere to be found there. The owner is a complete bastard who really has done some questionable things with his staff and was also known to his short measures, watering of the drinks and reduction of food portions.



Yeah, the Highlander was the only place really doin it up for St Patties, except for the dancers at EP. Highlander had tons of decorations and was giving away pretty good prizes including a night at tehe hotel. Half the ppl in my group won prizes, 500,000 gift certificates if i remember correctly. But, yeah, it was kinda dead, maybe at 1/3 capacity, but enough for a little vibe. Prob wont go back too often , but def will next year st. pats.

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#73264 - 09 Apr 08 08:10 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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 Originally Posted By: sartu
 Originally Posted By: chewwyUK
Im surprised you liked the highlander as I find there is little or no atmosphere to be found there. The owner is a complete bastard who really has done some questionable things with his staff and was also known to his short measures, watering of the drinks and reduction of food portions.



Yeah, the Highlander was the only place really doin it up for St Patties, except for the dancers at EP. Highlander had tons of decorations and was giving away pretty good prizes including a night at tehe hotel. Half the ppl in my group won prizes, 500,000 gift certificates if i remember correctly. But, yeah, it was kinda dead, maybe at 1/3 capacity, but enough for a little vibe. Prob wont go back too often , but def will next year st. pats.


Why? are you a bog hopper?

What is this fascination with celebrating some irish crap when for example most English don't know when St George's day is?

15 years ago if your heard an oirish voice you would have checked under your seat to see if there was anything ticking.

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#73265 - 09 Apr 08 08:11 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: chewwyUK]
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 Originally Posted By: chewwyUK
Wow .. seems like that captain Mbak can't go a single day without having somebody want to give him her a punch in the face.

back in the queue, please, back in the queue!!
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#73266 - 09 Apr 08 08:14 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: chewwyUK]
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 Originally Posted By: chewwyUK
Wow .. seems like that <s>captain</s> Mbak can't go a single day without having somebody want to give <s>him</s> her a punch in the face.


You know, she doesn't really give a damn. Anyone who wants to try is more than welcome to put a penny in the slot and push the button and then try to get the bells to ring.

Get youtube sorted out then? I suggest you get on to SBY and tell him in the strongest terms that you won't put up with it.

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#73267 - 09 Apr 08 08:17 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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 Originally Posted By: KuKuKaChu
 Originally Posted By: chewwyUK
Wow .. seems like that <s>captain</s> Mbak can't go a single day without having somebody want to give <s>him</s> her a punch in the face.

back in the queue, please, back in the queue!!


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#73269 - 09 Apr 08 08:30 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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 Originally Posted By: sartu
F you MbakAditya. The bartender didnt short me because of any attitude of mine. I didnt even get to relate similar issues my friends faced that same night (who ordered their drinks before the bartender knew they were with me). My two 'local' friends got poor service too. Oh, and none of us are students, not sure where u got that.

And i didnt moan as much there to the manager because it seemed like everyone working were running around the house and i just didnt care enough at the time to make a big deal of it once it had already happened. If I has asked to talk to the owner/manager, you would have commented here that i had an inflated sense of self-worth by asking for the manager, ya?

And i didnt go neat because jakarta is fuckin hot. I like ice, mo'fo'. And if you're affiliated with EP, I'll surely stay away now, unless its to meet you face to face, punk. My g'friend can throw a mean punch too.

Bartelle has a couple fun establishements so i figured EP would be the same or better. Sorry Lens. Maybe it was just a few bad apples.


Now, where could I have got that from .....
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Fucking hell, all the jakartarses getting scrappy this morning - go repair your pool pumps the lot of you.
As KuKu says, form an orderly line, then Chewwy can post the video on youtube. Does the g/f have a tattoo on her bum as well?

You don't give the establishment chance to put things right, then you post and say you won't back back because of short measures and a crap attitude.You wouldn't have had to stand on the bar to talk to the manager - whilst I have never had cause to complain, during my few sojourns to EP I have found Lens to be quite reasonable.

After the first Whisky with ice, they could have given you topi miring and probably did.

Oh, and fuck you too.

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#73270 - 09 Apr 08 08:31 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya


For your information, 1 pour is considered to be 25ml or 1/6 of a gill, two pours or a double would therefor be ... you guessed it double that. A bottle used to contain 32 shots, now the measure is 30.



Not sure where you've been drinking, but a strict 1 shot pour is 30ml (20% more than you've been getting) or 1oz. Any bar worth its weight pours 1.5oz, closer to 45ml FOR A SINGLE, almost twice what you'd serve in your dream pub! Now, of course you can play with price regardless of size, maybe we pay more for those 1.5oz shots, but no one wants to sip on 1oz of any liquid (except my girlfriend (wink wink), and you apparently.)

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#73271 - 09 Apr 08 08:38 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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 Originally Posted By: sartu
 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya


For your information, 1 pour is considered to be 25ml or 1/6 of a gill, two pours or a double would therefor be ... you guessed it double that. A bottle used to contain 32 shots, now the measure is 30.



Not sure where you've been drinking, but a strict 1 shot pour is 30ml (20% more than you've been getting) or 1oz. Any bar worth its weight pours 1.5oz, closer to 45ml FOR A SINGLE, almost twice what you'd serve in your dream pub! Now, of course you can play with price regardless of size, maybe we pay more for those 1.5oz shots, but no one wants to sip on 1oz of any liquid (except my girlfriend (wink wink), and you apparently.)


When most of the world was still living in trees, Great Britain had already established standards for measure of drinks.

I expect they played the oldest one in the book on you, measure in a bowl of water to "keep it clean" and it is already half full of water before they add the spirit.

I expect your g/f has been the recepticle for a few magnums of home-perm on more than a few occasions.

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#73272 - 09 Apr 08 08:40 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya


Now, where could I have got that from .....


Ahh the little things we do avoid imigrasi problems. But then again, i DID have a slew of private tutors, so i guess you got me there. Maybe you were one of them, big shot. No wonder you think you know so much about 25ml drinks, on that tight budget.

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#73274 - 09 Apr 08 08:49 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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 Originally Posted By: sartu
 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya


Now, where could I have got that from .....


Ahh the little things we do avoid imigrasi problems. But then again, i DID have a slew of private tutors, so i guess you got me there. Maybe you were one of them, big shot. No wonder you think you know so much about 25ml drinks, on that tight budget.


What a load of tosh.

Not being the average piss artist, I am able to order and consume as I wish. To be honest I tend to pour my own measures as price/volume is not a constraint.

I can imagine you needing a "slew" of private tutors - problem child were you? odd "learning difficulty" perhaps?

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#73279 - 09 Apr 08 09:32 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya


What a load of tosh.

Not being the average piss artist, I am able to order and consume as I wish. To be honest I tend to pour my own measures as price/volume is not a constraint.

I can imagine you needing a "slew" of private tutors - problem child were you? odd "learning difficulty" perhaps?


Ahh, a decade of hard work turned into a lot of money and free time, so why not get some tutors. The last thing i want to end up as is one of these 'expat experts' like yourself that have been here for years with really nothing to show for it but an addiction to posting pithy retorts (fuckin talk normal would you?) and a chronic passion for basking in 'the mysterious Orient'. Im gonna cry b/c i feel so inadequate after reading your constant anthopological insights on Indonesia...so deep..Ive only been in-country for a few years, so please, big daddy, i humbly solicit your input before my opinions on jakarta can be ligitimized...

i bet you ended up here b/c youre a fucking modern hippie looking for enlightment or something. And wound up with no skills transferable to anywhere else. so lets face it, your stuck here here, reinforced by the fact that this is the easiest place for u to get pussy. I guess being around a bunch of non-english ppl that you think 'were in trees' so recently makes you KING of the beasts! sweeeeett!! Oh, you know Indonesia like no one else. Wow. Been here for years? So impressive. Youre the Jakarta Mac Daddy.

fuckin weirdo.

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#73280 - 09 Apr 08 09:44 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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#73281 - 09 Apr 08 09:49 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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 Originally Posted By: sartu
 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya


What a load of tosh.

Not being the average piss artist, I am able to order and consume as I wish. To be honest I tend to pour my own measures as price/volume is not a constraint.

I can imagine you needing a "slew" of private tutors - problem child were you? odd "learning difficulty" perhaps?


Ahh, a decade of hard work turned into a lot of money and free time, so why not get some tutors. The last thing i want to end up as is one of these 'expat experts' like yourself that have been here for years with really nothing to show for it but an addiction to posting pithy retorts (fuckin talk normal would you?) and a chronic passion for basking in 'the mysterious Orient'. Im gonna cry b/c i feel so inadequate after reading your constant anthopological insights on Indonesia...so deep..Ive only been in-country for a few years, so please, big daddy, i humbly solicit your input before my opinions on jakarta can be ligitimized...

i bet you ended up here b/c youre a fucking modern hippie looking for enlightment or something. And wound up with no skills transferable to anywhere else. so lets face it, your stuck here here, reinforced by the fact that this is the easiest place for u to get pussy. I guess being around a bunch of non-english ppl that you think 'were in trees' so recently makes you KING of the beasts! sweeeeett!! Oh, you know Indonesia like no one else. Wow. Been here for years? So impressive. Youre the Jakarta Mac Daddy.

fuckin weirdo.


And another pithy retort for you.

No, i'm here b/c because i'm really quite happy, I don't get wound up by short measures and a ten day youtube ban.

As for Jakarta and it's multitude of expat "anthopogists", well, you can keep it.Hardly this mysterious orient is it when I have a tin of baked beans in the cupboard?

I was fortunate that I didn't need an enforced learning environment to flourish, but hey it takes Allsorts to make liqourice, another few years of tutoring and you will find where to put those missing vowels.

As always the standard contentions raise their ugly heads:-
1) You are some sort of Hippi who lives in a drain on Jaksa
2) You haven't got any money and can't afford to go home
3) You enjoy lording over the pembantu and driver
4) You can't get a shag anywhere else

Well my old china, wrong on all counts.






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#73283 - 09 Apr 08 10:29 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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[quote=MbakAditya

Well my old china, wrong on all counts.

[/quote]

denial. definitely. well, i can lead you to the beans, but i cant make you eat them.

but then again, i have been known to solve problems with violence, so maybe i can get you eat em.

I'll pop in and look for you next time Im driving by EP. Shouldn't be hard to find ya: the loner bule guy thinking he's wooing young barmaids with insights on Indonesian coups attempts and the differences between west java and east java batiks (cuz youre so 'native'!), blaming the whiff of bean flatulence on the better looking guy who just left the bar, hoping the GENEROUS 5000Rp tip you gave the bar chick last time pays off this time (you big spender you!). I'll be the guy taking surreptitious swigs out of my own (chilled!) flask of whisky.

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#73286 - 09 Apr 08 10:48 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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 Originally Posted By: sartu


but then again, i have been known to solve problems with violence, so maybe i can get you eat em.



I'd like to see you try it. Be careful about what you wish for.

Must be the rain, brings out all the J'town tough boys.

There is always one pikey who knows no shame and will bring their own booze in a brown paper bag.

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#73288 - 09 Apr 08 10:53 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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#73289 - 09 Apr 08 11:09 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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#73291 - 09 Apr 08 11:12 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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#73292 - 09 Apr 08 11:19 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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[/quote]

I'd like to see you try it. Be careful about what you wish for.

Must be the rain, brings out all the J'town tough boys.

[/quote]

youre the cocksucker who couldnt deal with my 'bar review', its YOU, buddy, who went knockin on doors that you dont want open. And i dont throw down gauntlets that i cant back up. I'd love the practice. Bring some friends too, punk. I'll even let you scratch and pull hair.

Ill be back in town in a week. maybe you should hit the gym till then Cap'n...

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#73294 - 09 Apr 08 11:22 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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 Originally Posted By: sartu



youre the cocksucker who couldnt deal with my 'bar review'.


hang on who sucks todger? The Captain or Mbak? I'm getting confused
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