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#73015 - 07 Apr 08 05:23 Eastern Promise: Bartending 101
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OMG...at Eastern Promise a few weeks ago. Asked the bartender what scotches they carried. She loked at my confused. Scotch...ummm WHISKY...Ahh, whisky, okay. She pointed out a section the rack and said "all our whiskies are right here"..hmmm..i looked and was disappointed to only see only run-of-the mill blended scotches. I looked around and on the other side of the display shelves was Glenfiddich. "What about that one? What is that?" "Oh thats Glenfiddich." "and thats a whisky, isnt is?" i played with her. "So no other whiskies?" "nope." Then, down off the shelf near the register was a bottle of Jameson (Irish Whiskey). "What about that bottle?" asked again. "You want Jameson?" "Yeah, Jameson IRISH WHISKEY" i said slowly as i pointed at the words in the label. Ok...so i took the Jameson (i was tired of glenfiddich).

But my fun had just begun. I ordered a scotch double on the rocks. Upon taking my glass from the bartender, I had to look closely to see if there was indeed any scotch in glass whatsoever. I handed the glass back to her and said there is no way this is a double. She then pulled out her jigger and explained that the small side was a single and the big side was a double. Hmmmm... I insisted that she was wrong and told her that the small side (the pony shot side) was no more than 1 ounce, while the big side was 1.5 ounces. Actually, I think the pony side of this jigger may actually have been only .75 ounces! One pour of the big side is a SINGLE (1.5oz), two pours is a double (3oz). And this is only if the bar is being strict in its pours. But the bartender insisted on her measurement and said this is how they have always done it. Nice, thats impressive quality control. So I said fuck it, laughed at her, and threw down my cash (120,000, or maybe 160,000?). I took my 1.5oz 'double' to the pool room, for the last time. My girlfriends Midori Sour was really weak too, prob same thing happening there. How the fuck does that happen? Another great example of service staff who never eat, drink, try, or have any clue about the products they are serving (e.g. no product knowledge). EP spends too much time on the weekly newsletter and not enough time training THE BASICS. THE BASICS. If heading to EP, stick to bottled beer, cant mess that up. But I wont be going back.

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#73016 - 07 Apr 08 05:58 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: sartu]
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I am sorry to hear of your unfortunate experience at Eastern Promise. I would advise you to in future drink somewhere more upmarket, such as Papa's Cafe on Jalan Jaksa. The staff there really know their whiskies and there are no stingy half-measures. And your girlfriend will probably enjoy their excellent Midori Sours too.

Alternatively, any problems with service at Eastern Promise can be resolved simply by speaking to Lens the manager.

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#73019 - 07 Apr 08 07:59 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: kenyeung]
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Not sure when exactly "a few weeks ago was" but there are a lot of new girls in EP a few weeks ago as one of the barmaids was getting married and a lot of other barmaids were at the wedding.

Not sure what the hell you are going on about with the measures but i would say thats the way she was taught as its dutch owned and we all know how tight they can be. Although you may find that because you were being an ass with the barmaid she used a strict measure instead of free pour - the nicer you are the more you get.

It's not a 5 star bar in a hotel - it's a dive bar. If you want whiskey I suggest you go to Highlander Pub in Grand Kemang hotel. You will probably find a wide variety of whiskey and the person behind the bar may know something about the drinks. Of course the place will be empty and it's an over priced piss hole that treats it's staff like dogs.

But one again I will repeat .. the nicer you are, the better the service is and the bigger the measure becomes. That's something to remember everywhere you drink - not just at EP
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#73022 - 07 Apr 08 08:17 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: kenyeung]
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Funny that, any time I've ordered spirits in EP and that is so often, the girl pouring seem to be afflicted with Bells Palsy and continuously twitches her arm in a spasm until seemingly half the bottle ends up in the glass.
Could be something to do with the way you treat people.

For your information, 1 pour is considered to be 25ml or 1/6 of a gill, two pours or a double would therefor be ... you guessed it double that. A bottle used to contain 32 shots, now the measure is 30.

I'd suggest that you try Mansion House Finest Irish Whiskey, by the bottle and order 30 shots and drink them all, if there is any left in the bottle after you have ordered your quota then you have been robbed.

PS. The cheesburger could be shot through the side of a cheftain tank, but the tandoori chicken is really very good.
The Captain says he fancies some of the cumi-cumi berjalan, but for the life of me I don't know what he means.

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#73023 - 07 Apr 08 08:19 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: chewwyUK]
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 Originally Posted By: chewwyUK
If you want whiskey I suggest you go to Highlander Pub in Grand Kemang hotel. You will probably find a wide variety of whiskey and the person behind the bar may know something about the drinks. Of course the place will be empty and it's an over priced piss hole that treats it's staff like dogs.



Is it still owned by the scottish guy who used to work for CNOC?

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#73024 - 07 Apr 08 08:22 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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Quote from Lens on the subject...

It’s not nice to hear a complaint like that and I’ll look into it. The person is right though. I shall have to go over the basics again.
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#73025 - 07 Apr 08 08:36 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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 Originally Posted By: Dilli
Quote from Lens on the subject...

It’s not nice to hear a complaint like that and I’ll look into it. The person is right though. I shall have to go over the basics again.







Don't bother, little shit is a student and until he learns basic manners and etiquette shouldn't be allowed back in .
Strange he has the balls to moan here, why didn't he do the same thing while he was in the place?

On the same subject ,Oz Clark thinks he knows a bit about whisky/ey and demand a single malt to then balls it up by throwing ice in it? He want throwing in the Cilliwung wuth a paving slab tied to his lead.


Tell Lens that the cheesburger really does need some refinement.


Edited by MbakAditya (07 Apr 08 08:39)
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#73026 - 07 Apr 08 08:36 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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In fairness he did also mention, as Chewwy pointed out that there have been some new starts and that this error would not have been made by one of the more experienced staff members.

And regarding "as one of the barmaids was getting married" dont rub it in Chewwy!
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#73027 - 07 Apr 08 08:38 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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Is it still owned by the scottish guy who used to work for CNOC?


Never was........always Indonesian owned, same guy that own's the pub in the Ambahra Hotel and that Irish Shithole on Sudirman
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#73028 - 07 Apr 08 08:42 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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 Originally Posted By: Dilli
In fairness he did also mention, as Chewwy pointed out that there have been some new starts and that this error would not have been made by one of the more experienced staff members.

And regarding "as one of the barmaids was getting married" dont rub it in Chewwy!


It can always be resolved at the time if there is some problem, I can't stand bleaters who don't say anything at the time then claim they were given poor service.

Which one got married?

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#73029 - 07 Apr 08 08:45 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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 Originally Posted By: Dilli
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Is it still owned by the scottish guy who used to work for CNOC?


Never was........always Indonesian owned, same guy that own's the pub in the Ambahra Hotel and that Irish Shithole on Sudirman


OK, substitute "owned" for "managed"?

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#73044 - 07 Apr 08 10:18 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya
 Originally Posted By: Dilli
In fairness he did also mention, as Chewwy pointed out that there have been some new starts and that this error would not have been made by one of the more experienced staff members.

And regarding "as one of the barmaids was getting married" dont rub it in Chewwy!


It can always be resolved at the time if there is some problem, I can't stand bleaters who don't say anything at the time then claim they were given poor service.

Which one got married?



Not the one I fancy
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#73048 - 07 Apr 08 10:32 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Roy's Hair]
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Kiki, last years Miss February and either owned or managed, the only Scottish part about the Highlanger was the food franchise which was managed by "Wee John" who is currently undergoing Chemo in KL.

The Indonesian owner arranged for death threats to be made to John and his partner "fuckwit Allan" and then took over the business himself when they relinquished the contract.
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#73049 - 07 Apr 08 10:36 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Roy's Hair]
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Not the one I fancy


Pray enlighten us.....
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#73050 - 07 Apr 08 10:36 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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Don't repost the picture of that spotty, emaciated, speccy pierced bloke you rotter


Edited by Roy's hair (07 Apr 08 10:37)
Edit Reason: I'm not gay
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#73051 - 07 Apr 08 10:37 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Roy's Hair]
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It did cross my mind......
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#73052 - 07 Apr 08 10:40 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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Is she the tall thin black sweet one? If so, she is a sweety and someone is lucky(not that I have lesbo urges as such) , still like the little one though.

Ah yes, wee john, I'd forgotten him, sorry to hear he isn't well - Salam buat dia etc.

Ever come across a big Dutchman by the name of George? He is an engineering and automation consultant. Married to an Indonesian girl, but she was born in Holland (not that it is important) seems to frequent EP etc.

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#73053 - 07 Apr 08 10:47 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya
Is she the tall thin black sweet one? If so, she is a sweety and someone is lucky(not that I have lesbo urges as such)


Mbak has found me out. Lovely wee thing.
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#73054 - 07 Apr 08 10:55 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Roy's Hair]
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And that's another Metro Mad taken care of: "Barmaids I would like to shag".

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#73055 - 07 Apr 08 11:04 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Roy's Hair]
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 Originally Posted By: Roy's hair
 Originally Posted By: MbakAditya
Is she the tall thin black sweet one? If so, she is a sweety and someone is lucky(not that I have lesbo urges as such)


Mbak has found me out. Lovely wee thing.


Cute ya?

I bet at this very moment she is being stretched out of shape by some great big hairy bule.

Just to confirm, is KiKi the one who has those very slightly protruding dinnermanglers? (in a loveable "gemus'able" sort of way)

And what is the name of the very little one who wears T shirts that say things like "Grab me and squeeze me" on them?



Edited by MbakAditya (07 Apr 08 11:05)
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#73060 - 07 Apr 08 11:32 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: MbakAditya]
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Yeni and yes, Kik has a bonza pair
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#73062 - 07 Apr 08 11:56 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: kenyeung]
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 Originally Posted By: kenyeung
And that's another Metro Mad taken care of: "Barmaids I would like to shag".


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#73253 - 09 Apr 08 07:30 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Roy's Hair]
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She then pulled out her jigger and explained that the small side was a single and the big side was a double. Hmmmm


And you complained about the whisky/ey?

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#73254 - 09 Apr 08 07:33 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: chewwyUK]
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"A few weeks ago" was St Patricks Day. And we DID then hit the Highlander after that round of disappointing drinks..a typical selection of whisky there too, so i settled for Bushmills (it WAS St patricks day...) But the service was great there, prob because they are starving for business, but we dug it.

Ha...I was probably the only one standing at the bar with a smile on my face (when i walked up at least!) Thanks Chewwy, but im not sure I really need a primer on proper bar etiquette. But I did have higher expectations given the 'foreign ownership' and relatively strong marketing campaign compared to other pubs.

Another weird issue was how the money was handled. Seems like all the cash was held in a location in the back of the bar. When I paid (and then when the others in my party paid), the bartender took the cash to back of the building somewhere and we each waited a few munited for our change. kinda annoying too, but maybe it had something to do with the St Particks Day events, i dont know.

Anyways...the food looked good...

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#73255 - 09 Apr 08 07:33 Re: Eastern Promise: Bartending 101 [Re: Dilli]
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 Originally Posted By: Dilli
Yeni and yes, Kik has a bonza pair


I've been looking at this for ages and wondering....
Now if you had said "has a lovely set" then I could have understood.

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