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#67238 - 29 Dec 07 14:54 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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#67239 - 29 Dec 07 14:57 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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The problem with worshippers is easily solved...

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#67241 - 29 Dec 07 15:19 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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Quoting: Dilli
The problem with worshippers is easily solved...



I like your sense of humor. dilli
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#67242 - 29 Dec 07 15:24 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Oldman]
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Please dont encourage him...
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#67243 - 29 Dec 07 15:25 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Shesca]
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I think the Pope should just own up and tell the world that Jesus was re-incarnated as Tony the Tiger from Kellogs Frosties Fame.

So much easier to believe!
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#67286 - 30 Dec 07 08:46 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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Let's enlighten the Pope with this:


Jesus is Not All-Powerful, and Not All-Knowing

Christians and Muslims agree that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. The Gospels show that Jesus was not all-powerful, and not all-knowing, since he had some limitations.

Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus was unable to do any powerful work in his hometown except few things: “He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.” (Mark 6:5).

Mark also tells us that when Jesus tried to heal a certain blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (see Mark 8:22-26).

Therefore, although we hold a great love and respect for Jesus, we need to understand that he is not the all-powerful God.

Mark’s Gospel also reveals that Jesus had limitations in his knowledge. In Mark 13:32, Jesus declared that he himself does not know when the last day will occur, but the Father alone knows that (see also Matthew 24:36).

Therefore, Jesus could not have been the all-knowing God.

Some will say that Jesus knew when the last day will occur, but he chose not to tell. But that complicates matters further. Jesus could have said that he knows but he does not wish to tell. Instead, he said that he does not know. We must believe him. Jesus does not lie at all.

The Gospel of Luke also reveals that Jesus had limited knowledge. Luke says that Jesus increased in wisdom (Luke 2:52). In Hebrews too (Hebrews 5:8) we read that Jesus learned obedience. But God’s knowledge and wisdom is always perfect, and God does not learn new things. He knows everything always. So, if Jesus learned something new, that proves that he did not know everything before that, and thus he was not God.

Can he become God later? No! Because there is only one God, and He is God from everlasting to everlasting (see Psalms 90:2).

Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a servant and therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God changed. But God does not change. God said so according to Malachi 3:6.

Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10).

The Bible clearly shows that Jesus was not all-powerful and all-knowing as the true God should be.



Hope the Pope will read this.
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#67287 - 30 Dec 07 08:57 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Oldman]
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#67291 - 30 Dec 07 09:16 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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A few close angel friends of mine popped in the morning for coffee and said that I was being discussed on JakChat. Having read some of the verbous drivel being spouted my the one who calls himself oldman I feel the time is right to put an end to this matter once and for all.

I am happy to confirm for everybody that I am a type of god.

I would also like to make Dilli aware that we have our eye on you and the chances of you being allowed in up here are very slim. Change your ways and follow Celtic and we may change our minds


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#67292 - 30 Dec 07 09:18 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: JESUS]
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Quote:
Change your ways and follow Celtic and we may change our minds




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#67293 - 30 Dec 07 09:26 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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At Last, I found a picture of the real Jesus....

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#67295 - 30 Dec 07 09:43 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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And his Mother.....



I know its been posted before but WTF!
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#67298 - 30 Dec 07 09:56 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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I can assure you Paris Hilton did not qualify to be my mother as she failed the virginity test.

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#67299 - 30 Dec 07 10:04 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: JESUS]
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I can assure you Paris Hilton did not qualify to be my mother as she failed the virginity test.


Jesus, you and your mother may sit on that couch if you want while Dilli will be sitting in his banci armchair.

[img]http://www.motherearthplantnursery.com/images/2COUCHA[/img]


Edited by Oldman (30 Dec 07 10:12)
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#67300 - 30 Dec 07 10:15 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Oldman]
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I couldn't upload the pic. Damn it. Jesus might have cursed me!
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#67302 - 30 Dec 07 10:25 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Oldman]
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Do not take the lords chair in vain!

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#67303 - 30 Dec 07 10:28 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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I'll just drop this in here...


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#67305 - 30 Dec 07 10:40 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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#67306 - 30 Dec 07 10:52 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Oldman]
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I do not understand the relevance of the above image.

I suppose I should read the Holy Bible for enlightenment.

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#67312 - 30 Dec 07 13:17 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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See, What you'll end up? That's the relevance!

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Edited by Oldman (30 Dec 07 13:30)
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#67313 - 30 Dec 07 13:40 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Oldman]
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Not very good at the embedding are we. Code looks OK so I have no idea what is stopping the image from showing.
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#67323 - 30 Dec 07 14:15 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Dilli]
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Quoting: Dilli
Not very good at the embedding are we. Code looks OK so I have no idea what is stopping the image from showing.


I'll try another pic.

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#67324 - 30 Dec 07 14:17 Re: Is Jesus a God or Just a Human Being? [Re: Oldman]
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That pic discribes how you'll end up if you are reading the bible while having a blowjob!
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#68430 - 19 Jan 08 20:15 Re: Jesus is not God. [Re: Oldman]
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You would have thought in these times, that knowing the Jesus was not actually born on 25th of December, we would change the date of Christmas to represent his real birth date, but then again that would mean informing the retail sector, who I am sure would have something to say, due to the unions having to get involved with regards to holiday pay and overtime. I hate Christmas it seems to remind me that I am no longer a child.
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#68431 - 19 Jan 08 21:44 Re: Jesus is not God. [Re: Magpie]
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This topic is full of SARA.... can offend Christian's religious feelings. Be aware.... most of westerners are Christians.

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#68435 - 19 Jan 08 22:05 Re: Jesus is not God. [Re: Sammy Carlton]
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But they do not take arms and punish if they are offended!

Most Christians can understand humour, after all they worship someone they believe is omnipotent, omniscient and controls everything!

If God truly existed, why did he not apply Happy Hour prices on all of my Bar Bill tonight!

I rest my case!
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