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#59358 - 21 Aug 07 13:25 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Dilli]
chewwyUK Offline
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Registered: 14 Sep 06
Posts: 2392
Loc: Jakarta
only if you are buying the beer
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#59359 - 21 Aug 07 13:52 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Dilli]
kenyeung Moderator Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 07
Posts: 2374
Loc: Indonesia
I had a cat once, but it died. My cat was named XXXXXX.


Edited by kenyeung (21 Aug 07 13:57)
Edit Reason: to protect the identity of my deceased cat

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#59361 - 21 Aug 07 14:07 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: kenyeung]
Roy's Hair Offline
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Registered: 08 Nov 06
Posts: 3974
Loc: jakarta
Indonesians wouldn't give a XXXX for any other kind of lager
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#59367 - 21 Aug 07 14:17 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Roy's Hair]
Dilli Offline
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Registered: 26 Feb 06
Posts: 8044
Loc: Nearest Bar
I'm looking for some XXX film's. Anyone got one I can borrow
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#59373 - 21 Aug 07 14:33 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Dilli]
Choc_Cow Offline
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Registered: 25 May 06
Posts: 1200
Loc: Di Puncak
i have short XXX trailers, is dat good enough for you?

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#59383 - 21 Aug 07 16:26 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Dilli]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
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Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3225
Loc: here
Quoting: Dilli
We can discuss this offline.


You never offered to buy me a nights supply of tinned guinness from the lovely Kiki so that we may forge a bond and discuss this matter "offline" - you just told me to "fucking delete it you twat" - so at least we now know where the old loyalties lie, even though Chewwy is a known Trolley Pusher, you still side with him.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
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#59384 - 21 Aug 07 16:30 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
Dilli Offline
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Registered: 26 Feb 06
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Loc: Nearest Bar
You never called when you were in Jakarta - Twunt!
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#59386 - 21 Aug 07 16:39 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
kenyeung Moderator Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 07
Posts: 2374
Loc: Indonesia
Quoting: Capt. Mainwaring
you still side with him.


Folk like you just don't even try to see the big picture. And you won't understand until you put yourself in the other guy's shoes or see things from his eyes. In a typical gesture of selflessness, I've given myself DCShotgun's eyes and can now see that I look like a right cunt. So I must apologize to him. It's got nothing to do with fear of having arsenic slipped into my next beer at Cazbar.

PS - Got any sunglasses I can borrow? Thanks.


Edited by kenyeung (21 Aug 07 16:42)
Edit Reason: Remove the reference to Rp120,000 box of cereal, ho-ho...

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#59391 - 21 Aug 07 16:53 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: kenyeung]
yourfather Offline
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Registered: 10 Apr 07
Posts: 136
Loc: melbourne australia
do u dudes wanna go out for beers in December?

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#59394 - 21 Aug 07 16:57 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: yourfather]
kenyeung Moderator Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 07
Posts: 2374
Loc: Indonesia
Sooner if you're in Melbourne. I drink with anyone, even some of the dull morons here.


Edited by kenyeung (21 Aug 07 17:00)
Edit Reason: Remove the identities of Piss Salon and EmmaJkt

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#59400 - 21 Aug 07 17:14 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: kenyeung]
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10790
Loc: Centre of the Universe
december?? now that's planning ahead ... i don't even know what i'm doing in a hour, much less months from now!
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#59401 - 21 Aug 07 17:14 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Dilli]
Capt. Mainwaring Offline
Pujangga Besar

Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3225
Loc: here
Quoting: Dilli
You never called when you were in Jakarta - Twunt!


You were busy shovelling in roast pork and looking after Mrs Dilli - everyone else said hello, and Klaus even offered to be even more intimate - you just sat there with a face like a cricket bat sucking the arse out of a B&H and slurping beer.

By the way Kenny - he really is a very nice man, and can I have your motor bike if you have an accident?
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik

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#59402 - 21 Aug 07 17:17 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
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Registered: 16 Aug 06
Posts: 3225
Loc: here
And I intend to visit the mangy side of time on business very soon - I have to visit Okusi Towers if it still standing, and of course visit the charms of Jaksa.
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I also made a vegetarian version,with tempe and tofu chunks for myself and others.Get over it.
Kosong.Wolo.Setunggal.Setunggal.Setunggal.Kosong.Pitu.Setunggal.Kosong.Wolo=Tempik

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#59407 - 21 Aug 07 18:13 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: Capt. Mainwaring]
kenyeung Moderator Offline
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Registered: 16 Apr 07
Posts: 2374
Loc: Indonesia
Quoting: Capt. Mainwaring
By the way Kenny - he really is a very nice man, and can I have your motor bike if you have an accident?


Sorry, but I was thinking of bequeathing all my possessions (an old pair of bloodstained Golkar y-fronts and a well-thumbed copy of 'Berjuang dan Mengabdi Demi NKRI dan Pancasila') to Try Sutrisno's munificent charities.

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#59411 - 21 Aug 07 18:18 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: kenyeung]
yourfather Offline
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Registered: 10 Apr 07
Posts: 136
Loc: melbourne australia
well next time im in JKT is December...

One of the downsides in Australia is that I dont have Ramadan off and just not show up at work for Idul Fitri.

But holiday pay is good???



Edited by yourfather (21 Aug 07 18:19)

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#59427 - 21 Aug 07 20:14 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: yourfather]
Roy's Hair Offline
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Registered: 08 Nov 06
Posts: 3974
Loc: jakarta
viz a vis Indo politicians and their offspring's relative intelligences, old Shogun has clearly been educated - it's kind of a reverse Sukarno syndrome I guess.
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#61114 - 14 Sep 07 00:27 Re: 'Porn Made Marine A Killer' [Re: kenyeung]
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Registered: 12 Jun 07
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Loc: fairyland
Quoting: kenyeung
Quoting: DCShogun
I still dont see the connection to Munir.

Impunity of the retired generals.

In trying to justify the Dili massacre, Try Sutrisno said: "Orang-orang yang mengacau itu harus ditembak, dan kami akan menembak mereka."
After I posted that, you said:
Quoting: DCShogun
I have been in the middle of those kind of situations. Very serious and tense situations. With all kinds of information coming in, sometimes conflicting.

Are you saying you have been amidst a crowd of unarmed protesters and decided they should be massacred?

Quoting: DCShogun
Pak Try was found (multiple times) to have done no wrong. Even with all kinds of research and new infomation, a number of major personalities and outspoken critics of the gov't decisions throught the various hearings concede this about Pak Try...
Current politicians, NGOs, and, maybe more importantly, foreign governments (including the US). The collective knowledge and information gathering ability of this large set of people and organizations has resulted in an accepted confidence in Pak Try's motives and his ultimate 'innocence'.

Komnas HAM chief Abdul Hakim said Try Sutrisno should be held accountable for the Tanjung Priok massacre. After recommending that Try be put on trial, Komnas HAM's office was attacked by the FPI.

Munir had been gathering evidence of the military's policy to rape and murder civilians in Aceh under the DOM, which came into effect when Try was Panglima ABRI.

The US State Dept has questioned the credibility of Indonesia's ad-hoc human rights court. The Australian govt berated Try over the Dili massacre.

Quoting: DCShogun
if you think that corruption is the reason he and Benny M were not convicted


I never said that, although Try did provide bribes in the form of islah. The military also showed up in heavy support at the Tanjung Priok trials. The presence of these noisy soldiers in full uniform was seen as a form of intimidation of not only witnesses, but also the judges.

Quoting: DCShogun
a knowledgeable statesman like yourself

????

Quoting: DCShogun
your little quotes are comparable to sound bytes with little context. I'd rather hear about what you know, not what you Google.

I was living in Indonesia since before Google existed. Try Sutrisno's comment on the Dili massacre is not the sort of thing that's easily forgotten.

Quoting: DCShogun
Many major ministers and diplomatic postings even attended his duaghter's recent wedding. He is in no way being shunned by anyone, not even SBY.

It is the duty of ministers and diplomats to attend such functions.

Quoting: DCShogun
most analysts see him as an ineffective VP for a number of reasons such as his desire to try to make everyone happy and Suharto's general desire to not share power.

The prevailing view among many people during the late 1980s and 90s was that Try Sutrisno was incompetent and stupid. He was the butt of many jokes.

Quoting: DCShogun
There's got a be a few politicians worth supporting either now or in the future.

Not in Wiranto's HANURA.

Quoting: DCShogun
Oooo...even better lets just hate all Indonesians who want to make the military their career and passion. They must all be blood thirsty killers.

You're showing your immaturity and inexperience here.

Quoting: DCShogun
But answer me one thing. Why ask me such a question in the first place?

Because you're Try Sutrisno's XXXXXX! Nothing personal, nothing against you. Just ask XXXXXXX if he thinks Hendro and Muchdi will ever be brought to justice for overseeing the murder of Munir.

You can respond via PM if you wish. Otherwise I'll merely/repeatedly leave it at: "Orang-orang yang mengacau itu harus ditembak, dan kami akan menembak mereka."

Thanks.


By the by, who's this shogun? A bit boring like ricboy, but has "mystical" aura about him. wink wink
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