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#30805 - 28 Jun 06 04:34 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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Supporters rally behind Alkatiri

Thousands of supporters of East Timor's former PM Mari Alkatiri rallied outside Dili on Tuesday, saying they wanted to march into the capital.
But Mr Alkatiri, who resigned amid mounting criticism of his handling of weeks of unrest, urged them to wait "a day or two" before entering the city.

The show of support came as President Xanana Gusmao met with advisers to discuss who should replace Mr Alkatiri.

Under the constitution, Mr Alkatiri's ruling Fretilin party should decide.

But news reports from Dili suggested Mr Gusmao wanted to appoint someone from outside the party.

Unrest

Mr Alkatiri resigned on Monday, after a show-down with Mr Gusmao.

But on Tuesday, Mr Alkatiri appeared to hint at a possible come-back.

"We are people who don't want violence and want to win again in 2007," he said, referring to next year's scheduled election.

East Timor has been beset by unrest since Mr Alkatiri sacked 600 disgruntled soldiers in March.

Gun battles between the rebel soldiers and those loyal to the government then broke out, with machete-wielding youths forcing thousands to flee their homes in fear.

The unrest turned into East Timor's worst violence since it voted for independence from Indonesia in 1999, and led to the young nation asking foreign peacekeepers to come to its aid.

As well as blaming him for triggering the violence, Mr Alkatiri's opponents also allege that he formed a hit squad to kill his political rivals - a charge he firmly denies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5120830.stm
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#30806 - 28 Jun 06 05:16 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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Aussies deployed as rivals clash in Dili

Wednesday June 28, 05:25 AM

Australian soldiers were on renewed alert in East Timor after fresh violence erupted in Dili only a day after the resignation of prime minister Mari Alkatiri.

The troops had set up road blocks after rival supporters and opponents of the former prime minister converged on the capital late Tuesday just as life began to return to normal, some shops and offices opening for the first time in weeks.

Mr Alkatiri, who resigned on Monday, has been summonsed by the nation's chief prosecutor to explain his alleged involvement in the distribution of arms and alleged plans to set up a secret hit squad. He has denied the allegations.

But the broadcast Tuesday night of an address by Mr Alkatiri to a large group of supporters at Hera, 10km east of Dili, sparked shooting in various parts of the city and caused general panic.

In the address, Mr Alkatiri blamed "militia-influenced" people from the west for distributing the arms and causing the recent violence.

The home of the Fretilin party's deputy parliamentary speaker, Jacob Fernandes, was burnt in the centre of town soon after the broadcast, and shots were reported in the suburbs of Becorah, Birro Pite, Surik Mas, and Kampong Alor.

Meanwhile, President Xanana Gusmao continues to lead negotiations on the makeup of a new transitional government.

East Timor's former foreign minister, Jose Ramos Horta, a frontrunner for the job, says he's confident a compromise will be chosen within days.

The Nobel Peace Prize winner has indicated he would be prepared to take on the prime ministership but says he'd prefer Fretilin's Arsenio Bano to accept the job.

East Timor has been rocked by unrest since April following Dr Alkatiri's decision to sack almost half the military.

The resulting violence between police and army factions left more than 30 people dead and forced nearly 150,000 people to flee their homes.

More than 2,200 foreign peacekeepers were deployed to restore order.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/060627/2/zk8b.html
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#30807 - 29 Jun 06 05:06 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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Mob torches homes in East Timor

Angry protesters have set fire to more than 20 homes in East Timor's capital Dili, in a sign that the violence which has blighted the city may not be over.
Stone-throwing youths are also reported to have attacked a refugee camp.

Analysts had hoped that the resignation of Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri earlier this week would end the crisis.

It is unclear who was behind the latest violence - both supporters and detractors of the former prime minister have been massing in the area.

Thousands of people supporting Mr Alkatiri and the ruling party Fretilin have gathered outside the capital, where they are thought to be preparing to march to Dili later on Wednesday.

But hundreds of anti-Alkatiri protesters are camped outside the main parliament building in the city, where they have been holding demonstratrations since last week.

International peacekeepers have increased patrols in the city, in case of further unrest.

Local people are also fearing the worst. "I am very worried," one businessman told Reuters news agency as he put shutters up on his kiosk. "I have taken my valuable stuff away."

Bowing to pressure

East Timor has been beset by unrest since Mr Alkatiri sacked 600 disgruntled soldiers in March.

Gun battles between the rebel soldiers and those loyal to the government then broke out, with machete-wielding youths forcing thousands to flee their homes in fear.

As well as blaming him for triggering the violence, Mr Alkatiri's opponents also allege that he formed a hit squad to kill his political rivals - a charge he firmly denies.

Mr Alkatiri's resignation had been seen by many as the solution to easing months of political crisis.

But even though he has now stepped down, and President Xanana Gusmao has announced plans for a caretaker government, tensions still remain.

Thousands of supporters of Mr Alkatiri rallied outside Dili on Tuesday, saying they wanted to march into the capital.

But in his first address since his resignation, the ex-prime minister urged them to wait "a day or two" before entering the city.

He also appeared to hint at a possible come-back.

"We are people who don't want violence and want to win again in 2007," he said, referring to next year's scheduled election.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5123630.stm
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#30808 - 29 Jun 06 13:40 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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Three things worth noting.

1. In Iraq the West went in to stop a dictator from controlling a population by brutality and force. Now we are stuffed. The “good goody two shoes” bleeding heart liberals not like us using brutality. Without it the population return to killing each other.


2. In Timor we removed a miliary regime (TNI) from controlling a population by brutality and force. Now we are stuffed. The “good goody two shoes” bleeding heart liberals not like us using brutality. Without it the population return to killing each other.

3. The “good goody two shoes” bleeding heart liberals objected to Israel occupying the Gaza Strip. Israel made a partial withdrawal. The Palestinians simply moved their rockets up to the new border, from where they can now hit Israeli towns.

So note this well. You CANNOT be nice to fucking savages. Either leave them alone or kill them. Being nice achieves fuck all.

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#30809 - 30 Jun 06 05:06 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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Fears over E Timor rival rallies
Supporters of East Timor's former PM Mari Alkatiri, forced to resign on Monday, have rallied in the capital Dili, sparking fears of clashes.
Thousands travelled into the city to show their support for Mr Alkariti's ruling Fretilin party.

Foreign peacekeepers escorted the group amid tight security, after checking all participants for weapons.

It was unclear if they could be kept apart from anti-Alkatiri protesters, still thought to be in the capital.

On Wednesday there were sporadic attacks across Dili, with international peacekeepers trying to separate the rival factions.

More than 20 houses were torched, and youths threw stones at a refugee camp.

President Xanana Gusmao said in a statement on Thursday that early elections were needed to solve the political paralysis in East Timor.

"I am conscious that the current crisis can only be completely overcome through free elections to be held as soon as possible," he said.

East-west divide

Chanting "Viva Alkatiri", the Fretilin supporters travelled to Dili in a convoy of packed trucks, buses, cars and motorbikes, escorted by Australian peacekeepers.

Fretilin spokesman Jose Reis told the French news agency AFP that "thousands" of people were joining the march, although exact numbers were difficult to assess.


He said they planned to drive around the city and hand a letter to President Gusmao asking him to respect Fretilin.
"We want to prove to the world that Fretilin has the majority [in parliament], and to demand that President Xanana Gusmao respect the constitution in resolving this crisis," said another rally organiser, Filomeno Aleixo.

Since Mr Alkatiri's resignation, under intense pressure from both inside and outside East Timor, Mr Gusmao has been holding discussions about who will replace him as the country's next prime minister.

Fretilin, which holds 55 of parliament's 88 seats, has the constitutional right to nominate the next premier. Fretilin supporters are anxious that this right is upheld.

The pro and anti-Fretilin groups are symbols of a deeper division - that between east and west of the country.

Western Timorese are often seen as having had more links with Jakarta during the period of Indonesian occupation. Easterners claim they played the major part in the 1999 uprising which ended Jakarta's rule.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/5127752.stm
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#30810 - 01 Jul 06 10:24 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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E Timor ex-PM avoids questioning
East Timor's former Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri has refused to turn up for questioning over allegations that he armed a civilian hit squad.
Prosecutor-general Longuinhos Monteiro said Mr Alkatiri was claiming immunity from prosecution as an MP.

Instead the former premier spent Friday morning addressing supporters in the grounds of Dili's university.

"Keep fighting! Keep fighting!" he told the cheering crowds, surrounded by heavily armed foreign peacekeepers.

Mr Alkatiri resigned from his position on Monday, following intense pressure both at home and abroad.

Letter of postponement

East Timor has been beset by unrest since Mr Alkatiri sacked 600 disgruntled soldiers in March.

Gun battles between the rebel soldiers and those loyal to the government then broke out, with machete-wielding youths forcing thousands to flee their homes in fear.

As well as blaming him for triggering the violence, Mr Alkatiri's opponents also allege that he formed a hit squad to kill his political rivals - a charge he firmly denies.

A close ally, former Interior Minister Rogerio Lobato, already faces charges over distributing the arms.

Mr Alkatiri had been summoned to appear for questioning on Friday in relation to these accusations, but Mr Monteiro said he had received a letter requesting a postponement.

"Mr Alkatiri is not coming to be interrogated today for two reasons," Mr Monteiro told reporters.

"The first reason is after his resignation from the government he has now become a member of parliament [so] he has immunity," he said.

"And the second thing, he is still awaiting the arrival of his lawyers who will be coming from abroad."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/5131922.stm
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#30811 - 05 Jul 06 08:26 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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Cosgrove backs Timor military reform

Wednesday July 5, 08:30 AM

Former defence chief Peter Cosgrove has backed moves to reform East Timor's troubled military and police.

General Cosgrove, who commanded the 1999 Australian-led East Timor intervention force, welcomed the end of violence on Dili's streets following the latest intervention by Australian troops.

He welcomed plans to reorganise the security forces.

"It is plain that there is a problem between the police and army which must be resolved as an early order of business," he told ABC Radio.

"If they have got the will and the motivation of a man like (Jose) Ramos Horta behind them, then I hope the political elite in East Timor take it to heart.

"The old Falintil warriors, we need a bit more done for them, an honourable and more settled future."

General Cosgrove said Australia would continue to need to intervene in regional nations in need of help.

"While ever we remain stable, affluent and democratic and a mature and developed nation, it is our responsibility and indeed our role," he said.

"Our geography is eternal. We shouldn't ever seek to escape these services we can provide to our friends."

General Cosgrove said everyone would want to see such interventions performed as the lowest possible level.

"But simply when you look around Australia, indeed through those magnificent men and women in the federal police, there is not so many of them that they can afford to go in against literally thousands of rampaging rioters," he said.

"While the army would prefer that they weren't involved, of course they can do those sorts of jobs. You saw that the immediate effect was to start to return confidence to the people not involved in street violence and them push the street gangs off the streets - and really, that was what was needed at that time."

http://au.news.yahoo.com//060629/2/zld5.html
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#30812 - 05 Jul 06 09:21 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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The talk now is the cost of rebuilding Timor AGAIN!!!!!

I get a bit pissed to see gangs roaming the street smashing the place up, then hearing the next day that my taxes are going to be spent fixing it again.

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#30813 - 05 Jul 06 09:28 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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you could refer to it as "moral hazard":

Quote:

Moral Hazard: The tendency of individuals, firms, and governments, once insured against some contingency, to behave so as to make that contingency more likely. A pervasive problem in the insurance industry, it also arises internationally when international financial institutions assist countries in financial trouble.
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#30814 - 06 Jul 06 04:47 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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E Timor rebels hand in weapons

A third group of rebel soldiers in East Timor has surrendered its weapons - part of an initiative to restore order in the troubled nation.
Major Augusto Araujo, who heads the rebel faction, said: "We don't want to fight anymore and we support peace."

Many of the rebels still holed up in hills around the capital, Dili, are part of a group of 600 soldiers who were fired from their jobs in March.

The sackings sparked street violence which killed at least 21 people.

Under intense pressure over his handling of the crisis, as well as claims he armed a civilian hit squad, Mari Alkatiri resigned as East Timor's prime minister late last month.

A new premier is due to be picked later this week, with former Foreign Minister Jose Ramos Horta rumoured to be one of the most likely candidates.

Quest for peace

Major Araujo and his men handed nine guns, mostly automatic rifles, over to Australian peacekeepers.

Two other groups of rebel soldiers have given up their weapons in recent weeks, although other factions are still thought to be holding on to their arms.

President Xanana Gusmao has repeatedly called for all groups to hand in their weapons, in order for peace to be restored.

"We... ask President Xanana to ensure all are disarmed holding illegal weapons, otherwise Xanana will lose the people's trust," Major Araujo told the Associated Press.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/5149246.stm
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#30815 - 27 Aug 06 14:46 Re: CNN/Australia rushes troops to Timor
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New UN peacekeepers for E Timor

The United Nations Security Council has established a new peacekeeping mission in East Timor with an initial mandate for six months.

The new force will replace the current smaller mission and will include more than 1,500 police and up to 35 military liaison officers, but no troops.

An Australian-led force sent to East Timor following an outbreak of violence three months ago will remain for now.

Its status will be reviewed in two months' time.

UN Secretary General Kofi Annan had asked the Security Council to agree to a year-long extension of the UN mission in the wake of the violence.

At least 25 people were killed and about 150,000 were left living in makeshift camps.

Trouble erupted after then-Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri dismissed 600 soldiers - or nearly half of the tiny East Timorese army - when they protested over alleged discrimination against soldiers from the west of the country.

He later resigned and was replaced by Nobel peace laureate Jose Ramos Horta, due to stay in office until elections in May next year.

The resolution passed by the UN Security Council notes that the recent unrest was exacerbated by "poverty and its associated deprivations, including high urban unemployment, especially for youth".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/5288170.stm
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