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#29128 - 08 Mar 06 10:57 “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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BOOK LAUNCH
“BULE CELUP” (THE WANNABE WESTENER)

GRAMEDIA BOOK STORE, YOGYAKARTA, INDONESIA
APRIL 8th , 2006

CHAPTER I
EVENT BACKGROUND

Most foreigners living in Indonesia have experienced it at some point: being called “BULE”. The term is an Indonesian language word commonly used to describe white persons. Its literal meaning, according to most dictionaries, is “albino”. Calling white foreigners “bule”, however, can cause offence, and lead to heated debates about the meaning of the word, as in the “Living in Indonesia” forum on this website. It is therefore worth taking a closer look at the term that can upset expatriates, while some Indonesians regard it as an innocent habit with no ill intent.

Coming to Indonesia, for white people, means they have to prepare themselves to become celebrities. These people can’t avoid the curious Indonesian people who are trying to take pictures of them, especially when they visit places of interest. The typical scenario is when a white person is in a certain place, later he/she will realize that he/she becomes the center of attention and some Indonesian people whisper to each other, “Lihat! Di sana ada bule!” (See the bule over there!) It is an attraction for some westerners, but most of them feel like they are being treated as a non-person.

Moreover, some westerners consider this as racism. This might be the lightest racist issue happening in Indonesia, but it is still annoying. In the minds of most Indonesians, the term bule is a stereotype, which refers to someone who is rich, rude, and ignorant, smells like cheese, and has no morals. The term itself influences Indonesian’s treatment of white people. The price of everything always skyrockets for foreigners, from admission fees of certain places of interest to parking fees. What the Indonesians do not understand is that not every white person living in Indonesia is well-to-do.

This novel explores the life of foreigners in Indonesia, their thoughts as well as their feelings while setting up a new life in Indonesia, and also their interaction with Indonesian people. It aims to provide a clear explanation about expatriating so that the level of appreciation among Indonesian people towards foreigners can increase.
The setting of “Bule Celup” is the adventure of three Indonesian teenagers who are trying to find a friend: a bule one. During this adventure, they have to deal with the stereotype they have about foreigners. They also experience culture shock phenomenon and a crisis of identity. Although this novel is meant to entertain, it also has some insights - one of them is about multicultural understanding.
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#29129 - 08 Mar 06 11:23 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Can I steal this and cull bits for my website? Like I do with everything else...
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#29130 - 08 Mar 06 12:20 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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What?
I thought your blog is genuine... smile
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#29131 - 08 Mar 06 15:09 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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ah..Dilli, stop stealing honey! I ran out my G-strings, Victoria just files bankrutpcy and no more her secret in stores...
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#29132 - 08 Mar 06 15:11 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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WD, is it true? I just looked the website last night, I love Victoria's secret frown
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#29133 - 08 Mar 06 18:27 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by KuKuKaChu:
BOOK LAUNCH
“BULE CELUP” (THE WANNABE WESTENER)

GRAMEDIA BOOK STORE, YOGYAKARTA, INDONESIA
APRIL 8th , 2006

CHAPTER I
EVENT BACKGROUND

Most foreigners living in Indonesia have experienced it at some point: being called “BULE”. The term is an Indonesian language word commonly used to describe white persons. Its literal meaning, according to most dictionaries, is “albino”. Calling white foreigners “bule”, however, can cause offence, and lead to heated debates about the meaning of the word, as in the “Living in Indonesia” forum on this website. It is therefore worth taking a closer look at the term that can upset expatriates, while some Indonesians regard it as an innocent habit with no ill intent.

Coming to Indonesia, for white people, means they have to prepare themselves to become celebrities. These people can’t avoid the curious Indonesian people who are trying to take pictures of them, especially when they visit places of interest. The typical scenario is when a white person is in a certain place, later he/she will realize that he/she becomes the center of attention and some Indonesian people whisper to each other, “Lihat! Di sana ada bule!” (See the bule over there!) It is an attraction for some westerners, but most of them feel like they are being treated as a non-person.

Moreover, some westerners consider this as racism. This might be the lightest racist issue happening in Indonesia, but it is still annoying. In the minds of most Indonesians, the term bule is a stereotype, which refers to someone who is rich, rude, and ignorant, smells like cheese, and has no morals. The term itself influences Indonesian’s treatment of white people. The price of everything always skyrockets for foreigners, from admission fees of certain places of interest to parking fees. What the Indonesians do not understand is that not every white person living in Indonesia is well-to-do.

This novel explores the life of foreigners in Indonesia, their thoughts as well as their feelings while setting up a new life in Indonesia, and also their interaction with Indonesian people. It aims to provide a clear explanation about expatriating so that the level of appreciation among Indonesian people towards foreigners can increase.
The setting of “Bule Celup” is the adventure of three Indonesian teenagers who are trying to find a friend: a bule one. During this adventure, they have to deal with the stereotype they have about foreigners. They also experience culture shock phenomenon and a crisis of identity. Although this novel is meant to entertain, it also has some insights - one of them is about multicultural understanding.
white person who come to Indonesia always like actris or actors..and always was regarded as greatest...Therefore they became conceited..

but aside that, a lots of them we could got if we're though about the fositive..
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#29134 - 08 Mar 06 19:16 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Bule juga manusia.... smile
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#29135 - 08 Mar 06 21:14 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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What would it be like if countries such as Indonesia becomes structured and rigid like western countries? Things like litigations are rife, government acted like nanny for its citizen, etc.

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#29136 - 08 Mar 06 21:28 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Hey Goof, totally agree,

regarding the website, the majority of stuff is mine, the balance is taken from the press and turned around, where I paraphrase I give credit as to where it came from, the thoughts, issues and commentaries are all mine....as for Victorias Secrets, I visited a store in Houston texas with a lil filly and left US $300 lighter---what a fashion show I had that night, but that is another story.
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#29137 - 09 Mar 06 04:45 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by rubyenda:
WD, is it true? I just looked the website last night, I love Victoria's secret frown
Just kidding ruby..but who cares if VS goes bankcrupt. I hate panties anyway smile
if theres an emergency, I could go with Abercrombie, they are hotter and sexier, fit perfectly on my ass!
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#29138 - 09 Mar 06 13:41 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Can I steal this and cull bits for my website? Like I do with everything else...
why not? that's what i did wink

copy and paste? some call it plagiarism; i call it discursive synthesis wink
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#29139 - 09 Mar 06 18:23 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by rubyenda:
Bule juga manusia.... smile
pa'le juga... wink
yeah...white person is only human like us...but sometimes we regarded too much to them as a king smile
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#29140 - 09 Mar 06 20:08 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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discursive synthesis

Great-I can use this, However, when I try to get over to my massive (400 frequent visitors)audience it is better to say discursive synthesis tan stolen..

Thanks Kukuk
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#29141 - 10 Mar 06 00:14 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by cherry:
Quote:
Originally posted by rubyenda:
Bule juga manusia.... smile
pa'le juga... wink yeah...white person is only human like us...but sometimes we regarded too much to them as a king smile
WE?? we who?? I don't!
I believe white people don't expect to be treated that way, as you pointed out. All you need to do is respect them as they respect you!
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#29142 - 10 Mar 06 05:17 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by cherry:
yeah...white person is only human like us...but sometimes we regarded too much to them as a king smile
Aaaaahhhhmmmm - im not human! I am king of my icebeg.

One of the biggest shocks in my sad little life was being in a work group during my MBA, being the only Westerner among a groups of Indonesians, Thai, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Japanese etc, and suddenly realising I was the dumbest one in the group.......

It was not a nice thing to discover, and to make things worse the other students still treated me kindly, included me, and even looked up to me.

Bules are only kings of their own arrogance. Nothing more.

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#29143 - 10 Mar 06 07:49 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Before you judge someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you judge them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
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#29144 - 10 Mar 06 08:35 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Choose your friends by their character and your socks by their colour. Choosing your socks by their character makes no sense, and choosing your friends by their colour is unthinkable.

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#29145 - 10 Mar 06 08:47 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Goofie, that's right smile
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#29146 - 10 Mar 06 09:16 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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When we are born we are naked, wet, hungry, and we get smacked on our arse. From there on in, life gets worse.
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#29147 - 10 Mar 06 09:22 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by Dilligaf:
When we are born we are naked, wet, hungry, and we get smacked on our arse. From there on in, life gets worse.
I was born furry and cute. my mother licked me all over...

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#29148 - 10 Mar 06 09:28 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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When I was born I was so surprised I didn't talk for a year and a half. I was so scared facing the big bad world, I peed in my pants for the first few years of my life.

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#29149 - 10 Mar 06 10:57 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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When I was born the nurse smaked my arse and told my mother, your baby is crying: to which my mother replied, "Thank fuck for that, I thought he was going to bark"!
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#29150 - 10 Mar 06 12:02 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Before you judge someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you judge them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
wink
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#29151 - 10 Mar 06 12:20 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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#29152 - 10 Mar 06 12:29 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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I want you Dili!!!
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#29153 - 10 Mar 06 12:30 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by Macan tutul:
Quote:
Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Before you judge someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you judge them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
wink
So Dilli, how many shoes do you have now?
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#29154 - 10 Mar 06 12:45 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Hey MT, Apa Kabar...

On the subject of shoes I can definately say-nowhere near as many as Imelda Marcos.

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#29155 - 10 Mar 06 12:49 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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hmmm...think that this "bule celup" book is kinda interesting. I think i will get one.
hey kuku, is not in the store yet? the launch is going to be on the april 8th?
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#29156 - 10 Mar 06 13:00 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Ok laluna, u get it first then I will borrow from you smile
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#29157 - 10 Mar 06 13:03 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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oh no no...you get one for your self!!!! I can share my guys with you but not my books...sorry.
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#29158 - 10 Mar 06 13:06 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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U mean ur american guys?
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#29159 - 10 Mar 06 13:10 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Americans-guys with big belt bucles and small dicks.

Fact:Researchers from Andromedical in Spain found that the average Scottish manhood is 6.2in when aroused.
Italy is next at 5.9in reports The Sun.
Americans all below the world average of 5.5in at 5.1in.
Countries with the smallest averages were India at 3.9in and South Korea with 3.7in.

Just call me Guiseppe MacGregor
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#29160 - 10 Mar 06 13:10 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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yes, my american guys, but of course not my american GUY! wink
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#29161 - 10 Mar 06 13:12 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Americans-guys with big belt bucles and small dicks.

Fact:Researchers from Andromedical in Spain found that the average Scottish manhood is 6.2in when aroused.
Italy is next at 5.9in reports The Sun.
Americans all below the world average of 5.5in at 5.1in.
Countries with the smallest averages were India at 3.9in and South Korea with 3.7in.

Just call me Guiseppe MacGregor
ok guissepe macgregor...
question for you...if my american is actually mixed of scottish and irish...what should i call him then????
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#29162 - 10 Mar 06 13:19 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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I got 8in of my ex american guy smile
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#29163 - 10 Mar 06 13:52 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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I dont believe about India.I think they are gonna be big chappatis .
But then Im the one with the sikh and parsi hangup so....
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#29164 - 10 Mar 06 14:06 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Dilli, you know nothing about american dicks, unless you sleep with them...
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#29165 - 10 Mar 06 14:15 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Hey MT, Apa Kabar...

On the subject of shoes I can definately say-nowhere near as many as Imelda Marcos.

How are you today Ruby, Miss you too
I'm fine Dili, beside Imelda I still don't get it, why she looks so innocent even she's judged guilty because of corruption? What if afro American and American become one just like Vin Diesel, Eric Bennet etc I think its nice too.
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#29166 - 10 Mar 06 14:21 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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ok guissepe macgregor...
question for you...if my american is actually mixed of scottish and irish...what should i call him then????
He's called Johnnie Walker.

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#29167 - 10 Mar 06 14:22 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Imelda Marco's shoes, most of them actually was gift! given by people from around the world she visited. Especially filipino people who live in the US. They knew Imelda loves shoes, just like me smile my closet full of any kinda shoes...never too many for me and still keep buying them..
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#29168 - 10 Mar 06 14:23 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Does it matter what nationalities 'dicks' come from as long as he can hump and hump good?

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#29169 - 10 Mar 06 14:25 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Imelda Marco's shoes, most of them actually was gift! given by people from around the world she visited. Especially filipino people who live in the US. They knew Imelda loves shoes, just like me smile my closet full of any kinda shoes...never too many for me and still keep buying them..
Gek Ayu, is there one with high heel with long thin string you loop around and up your sexy calf? I like those. Those are sexy.

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#29170 - 10 Mar 06 14:27 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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ok guissepe macgregor...
question for you...if my american is actually mixed of scottish and irish...what should i call him then????
He's called Johnnie Walker.
LMAO....that's a good one, goof!
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#29171 - 10 Mar 06 14:32 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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yeees, beli..come over and check all of them out! my fav is the very red high heel, and matching up with my very red dress, I wore them last Saturday night on the IFC party smile I think George Cloony gave me an eye..*GR neeh* too bad..I was with my NY dude.
Next time I'll wear sexy dress when you take me out beli...when ??
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#29172 - 10 Mar 06 14:36 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Does it matter what nationalities 'dicks' come from as long as he can hump and hump good?
EXACTLY! I love my bali men, I'd say "yes" 10 times if beli goof asks me to marry him!
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#29173 - 10 Mar 06 14:40 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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I just checked my private jet. Apparently is not yet ready. My finance department has defaulted on the down payment...yet again.

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#29174 - 10 Mar 06 15:05 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Pass this to your finance department

The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
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#29175 - 10 Mar 06 15:23 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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...fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
That's called 'income redistribution'.

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#29176 - 10 Mar 06 18:08 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Wasnt Imelda from an area famous for shoe manufacture in Filipnes? I thought that was her kampung, like coming from " bata" or something.
Maybe just excuse!
I think Maga gonna own more shoes actually......
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#29177 - 10 Mar 06 20:26 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by wallet-digga':
Quote:
Originally posted by cherry:
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Originally posted by rubyenda:
Bule juga manusia.... smile
pa'le juga... wink yeah...white person is only human like us...but sometimes we regarded too much to them as a king smile
WE?? we who?? I don't!
I believe white people don't expect to be treated that way, as you pointed out. All you need to do is respect them as they respect you!
kadang loe banyak bacot juga ya digga' wink
"we" I meant we're indonesians who lived in Indonesia not Indonesians who lived in overseas...
cause some indonesians still look weird if they see the bule came to their city...
kalo buat gue seehhh...bule itu bukan hal yang aneh cause gue hidup dengan bule :p
tapi kalo emak gue di kampung frown ....menganggap bule itu adalah aneh frown dan parahnya lagi...semua bule dianggapnya belanda..ada rambut pirang, tinggi gede...putih cendrung pucat..komentar mereka..."no ada orang belanda datang ke rumah loe mpok haji" wink
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#29178 - 10 Mar 06 22:59 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Me "banyak bacot"? that's NOT a very nice thing to say Cherry!

Those words usually comes out from a mentally retarded mouth who has a potential mental age of between 8 and 12 years and is capable of doing routine work under supervision, or called it MORON!
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#29179 - 11 Mar 06 00:08 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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pa'le juga... wink yeah...white person is only human like us...but sometimes we regarded too much to them as a king smile [/qb]
WE?? we who?? I don't!
I believe white people don't expect to be treated that way, as you pointed out. All you need to do is respect them as they respect you! [/qb][/QUOTE]kadang loe banyak bacot juga ya digga' wink
"we" I meant we're indonesians who lived in Indonesia not Indonesians who lived in overseas...
cause some indonesians still look weird if they see the bule came to their city...
kalo buat gue seehhh...bule itu bukan hal yang aneh cause gue hidup dengan bule :p
tapi kalo emak gue di kampung frown ....menganggap bule itu adalah aneh frown dan parahnya lagi...semua bule dianggapnya belanda..ada rambut pirang, tinggi gede...putih cendrung pucat..komentar mereka..."no ada orang belanda datang ke rumah loe mpok haji" wink [/QB][/QUOTE]

I live in indonesia and i don't live with bule now.....
I never treat them as a king!!!!!
Emak gue yang cuma lulusan SD pun also never threat them as a king???!!!!
Mbak jgn maen pluralism gitu dong!!!!! arghhh...apa kate loe deh...lagian...how can i make comment to someone who's only mentally retarted just like WD said... :rolleyes:
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#29180 - 11 Mar 06 00:45 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Me "banyak bacot"? that's NOT a very nice thing to say Cherry!

Those words usually comes out from a mentally retarded mouth who has a potential mental age of between 8 and 12 years and is capable of doing routine work under supervision, or called it MORON!
WD, no offence... I don't think Cherry said such words in a serious way (look at the smiley). Among Betawi or Jakarta people, saying 'kamu banyak bacot' is sometimes used sebagai ucapan sehari-hari dalam pergaulan instead of 'bawel loh' or 'banyak omong loh' (you talk too much), and isn't always used to insult others.

Memang kasar sih terdengarnya... Sama aja kalo kita denger ucapan bule yang suka pake embel-embel 'the hell, fucking, or wtf' dalam ucapan mereka. So mungkin Cherry sudah terlalu lama hidup di Jkt and that's the way she talks to her friends (not to her Boss I hope) :p

Enjoy the talkings.. wink
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#29181 - 11 Mar 06 03:56 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Well, I'm not from Jakarta and I have bunch of Betawi friends but never heard they said or used such term "BACOT"! I heard that often from "berandal jalanan" and I'm NOT Cherry's friend, so its too harsh for me! I didn't use any rude word commenting her posts! did I ever call her with a bad name before?
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#29182 - 11 Mar 06 06:31 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Guys, I reckon we should have jello or mud wrestling among these hot chicks. No bra, just bikini bottom.

I'll wage my $100...he heh he

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#29183 - 11 Mar 06 06:46 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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my fav is the very red high heel, and matching up with my very red dress,
I love red shoes and red dress (not on me of course)

Can we see a photo?

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#29184 - 11 Mar 06 06:57 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Must me mass PMT this week!

girls stop fighting and start smooching. we guys need a lot of loving.....

A girl should treat ANY guy like a king. And a guy should treat EVERY girl like a Princess.

I’m old fashioned - if I see a girl at a bar on her own I offer her a drink (not as a pick up). I light a girl’s cigarette, I stand up when introduced to them, I salute them when I am in uniform. I pay for dinner – every time. I carry their parcels. Offer them my seat on the train or bus. I flirt with them, but in a lighthearted way.

In return I expect a girl to treat me well. Not take advantage of my generosity, not to be rude. I expect her to look good – not expensive, because some girls don’t have a lot of money, but wear something nice. (I am more impressed when a poor girl makes an effort to look nice in old clothes, than a rich girl who buys everything new for the night).

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#29185 - 11 Mar 06 07:40 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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how are you PB, feeling better today? Hope so.... smile
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#29186 - 11 Mar 06 07:57 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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No wonder most girls fall into PB wink
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#29187 - 11 Mar 06 07:59 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Quote:
Originally posted by Polar Bear:
Quote:
Originally posted by wallet-digga':
my fav is the very red high heel, and matching up with my very red dress,
I love red shoes and red dress (not on me of course)

Can we see a photo?
Ya, ya..show us the picture of lady in red smile
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#29188 - 11 Mar 06 08:11 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Morning All!
Head hurts a little this morning, overserved again...Lady in Red, used to be a metaphor suggesting loose moral values, what does it mean these days.

My personal prefrence is clothing in pastel shades with Lime Green underwear (if they are wearing any!)
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#29189 - 11 Mar 06 08:21 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Originally posted by Dilligaf:
Morning All!
Head hurts a little this morning, overserved again...Lady in Red, used to be a metaphor suggesting loose moral values, what does it mean these days.

My personal prefrence is clothing in pastel shades with Lime Green underwear (if they are wearing any!)
I have lime green underwear... wink
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#29190 - 11 Mar 06 08:30 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Morning Dilli!

What, lady in red = metaphor?

I only know that a women wearing all red = lady in red smile

I am lady in pink now wink wink
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#29191 - 11 Mar 06 08:45 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Oh ladies, pink and lime green, my favourites, can I keep you both?
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#29192 - 11 Mar 06 08:51 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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wink yep sure. I think ruby and me don't mind to share....
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#29193 - 11 Mar 06 08:55 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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At last, fantasies are being fullfilled, two lovely ladies, lingerie clad, sharing little old me....ah. Pity its only a fantasy
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#29194 - 11 Mar 06 09:00 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Fantasy?
Hm..laluna...can we make it real? We should make guys happy here... wink
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#29195 - 11 Mar 06 09:31 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Even if only one of you can make it real I would be happy! I am easily pleased
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#29196 - 11 Mar 06 09:42 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Abrakadabra...your wish come true wink
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#29197 - 11 Mar 06 10:13 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Now wouldn't that be fun, however, I am here and you are there! I may just book a ticket
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#29198 - 11 Mar 06 10:37 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Dilli....pondok indah is just 15 minutes drive to my house.... wink
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#29199 - 11 Mar 06 10:41 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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See Dilli, u got one of us smile wink
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#29200 - 11 Mar 06 10:46 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Im babysitting this morning. Cannot get out of the house until beer time this afternoon. Bugger!
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#29201 - 11 Mar 06 10:50 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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ohhh....poor Dilli, never mind we can get chance next time. Just buzz me whenever you're free... wink
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#29202 - 11 Mar 06 10:54 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Alas, woe is me, two women after my attentions and I am stuck at home. Probably just as well, I can get myself into trouble without trying to hard.
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#29203 - 11 Mar 06 11:01 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Hmm..Dilli, u got a chance and u miss it :p
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#29204 - 11 Mar 06 11:05 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Me "banyak bacot"? that's NOT a very nice thing to say Cherry!

Those words usually comes out from a mentally retarded mouth who has a potential mental age of between 8 and 12 years and is capable of doing routine work under supervision, or called it MORON!
ya ampuiun...gara-gara "bacot" neh..gue diserbu..I'm so sorry digga..it's only joke..I didn't meant anything.. smile
peace you girl smile
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#29205 - 11 Mar 06 11:26 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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I live in indonesia and i don't live with bule now.....
I never treat them as a king!!!!!
Emak gue yang cuma lulusan SD pun also never threat them as a king???!!!!
Mbak jgn maen pluralism gitu dong!!!!! arghhh...apa kate loe deh...lagian...how can i make comment to someone who's only mentally retarted just like WD said...

apa kata loe juga deh... :p
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#29206 - 11 Mar 06 11:31 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Cherry if I treated you like my Queen, could I be your king? smile

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#29207 - 11 Mar 06 11:54 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Cherry if I treated you like my Queen, could I be your king? smile
I'll think twice wink
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#29208 - 11 Mar 06 11:56 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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I would certianly give you a seocnd look if i passed you on the street smile

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#29209 - 11 Mar 06 12:01 Re: “Bule celup”: The Wannabe Westerner/book launch
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Ohh...no more mud wrestling. No fun!

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