I know that you love Indonesian girls. you think we are the most beautiful stunning of all Asian girls, and you really like Indonesia that's why you spend so much time there. Here's a set of rules you have drafted from your personal experiences and other bule friends.

1) Learn the language and find a girl that cannot speak English.
The likelihood of being completely hoodwinked goes down as you become more
familiar with the people and culture. If she speaks excellent English and
has not studied it in Uni or is not currently studying it in school you'll
end up being the tenth bule who feels sorry for her and sends her 1m rp
month.

2)Drop a girl immediately if she doesn't want you to learn the language.
Girls who want to be deceitful don't want you to learn the language. The
more ignorant the bule is about the culture/society the easier it is for
him to be taken to the bank. Any decent, honest girl who wants to marry
you would want you to be as proficient in the language as you could
possibly be. You not knowing the language makes it easier for them to
inflate prices. (ie. it costs a half million to get my hair done.)

3)For the first few months you are dating don't offer to pay for anything other
than food/entertainment etc. Cheap gifts/flowers are okay. This doesn't
mean you can't go out and spend $60 on a night out. Keep support at a
minimum. Supporting them immediately will only foster deceit. If you want
to pay for *** pay for ***! It's much easier and cheaper to pay for a
hooker.

4)If she doesn't want you to learn the language because she intends to deceive
you she will tell you things like: Bule who can speak English just argue
over 1,000 rp with people!

5)If you are not in a committed relationship DO NOT SEND MONEY FROM OVERSEAS. This is simple. How easy is it for a tourist **** to make a bule fall in
love with her......50 bucks a month is more than she will make working. It
can be a good arrangment though. Send 50 bucks month come back for a month or two on holiday and have a "girlfriend" for some entertainment.

6)Don't forget unless you are very wealthy that your money goes far in Indonesia
and for most you cannot live the same lifestyle in Indonesia. So from the
get go make sure that she understands it's a charmed life as far as money
is concerned with Bule in indonesia. It is often much much more different
in the other country.

7)If you really want to get married i think it is crucial she go visit for a
couple months before making a lifelong commitment. You also are making a
commitment to returning to Indonesia ever so often so she can visit
family. Most women do not want to visit Indonesia for three weeks once
every four years. So make sure you will be able to have the $3-5k
for a visit every year or two. Europe/America is cold as hell in the
winter. They don't think about things like insurance. Spending $150 to
heat a house in the winter. Often the girls would like to go back and
spend 6 months or a year in their home country. Nice for you also if you
love Indonesia! Flexibility.

8) also get a tourist visa or and get a 3 month fiance visa. Explain to her that
you want her to have a look and see the lifestyle you'll be living. Make
sure she gets a good look at all the good looking bule in
Europe/Australia. You might not be as exotic and rich as you were when you
were visiting Indonesia!!

9)Find a girl that has a job and has continuously had a job. Unless of course
you don't care if she works in your country or not. Your monthly support
will only generate laziness.

10)Don't give her any idea at all for the first few months how much money you
make. Knowing your job is fine. Is it really relevant for them to know?

11)Know that you are not liked. You are a business for most people trying to
befriend you. That that three dollar beer you just bought a friend is
more than the days wage. I would like someone too if they bought me a
$200 beer!!

12)If you have a girl you are serious about don't over-rent. That five bedroom
house in Sumatra for 20 million a year will cover 2-3 months rent of a
small flat in California/New York/London. And you won't be able to afford
a made or cook in the West so don't get her accustomed to that!

Just to let everyone know..... I don't think all indonesia people are bad and always trying to take advantage of the Bule. It is a product of the difference in currencies. It is mostly economics. Americans/Europeans/Australians likely would act the same way if there were such a gap in currencies. Don't take it personally. Many Indonesians are brilliant. There's a lovely culture/food/scenery and people in Indonesia....unlike anywhere else.

sound so man or...?

Oh, Marsha is definitely all woman. I've seen her pics and she looks good enough to eat.

nope, she's out standing indo girl..
i am proud of u gal :-)

but what happen in JKT or INdo is somewhat mutualism symbiosis between hunger bule who cant stand his hormone looking hot indo girls :-)

the bule guys need s e x the chicks need money..

quite that simple..
but 1 % is purely because GENUINE love..

you're a hopeless case, D_Q! you're a "true believer" in "true love"! admit it!

You not knowing the language makes it easier for them to
inflate prices. (ie. it costs a half million to get my hair done.)

Shit me wifes screwing me, HA HA

the bule guys need s e x the chicks need money

And a bloody good arrangement it is

What about all the bule girls married to indo guys? Are you saying that indonesian men and women are just into money? Actually my husband would be 100 times richer than I would ever have been here in Australia.
What is the arrangement there?
I have seen the result of this western superiority complex back here in oz, the poor girl from some blok m bar who marries the fat loser who has 3rd or 4th divorce because NO western woman would ever put up with him for longer than ayear or two I say sucked in-if you are looking to treat your wife as the product of an economic disparity between markets you deserve to be sucked in, used and spat out. Whats the difference-you will only go back to Asia nd find another wife in exactly the same way.
Otherwise you would meet a spouse from a similar background-like through work etc, not be actively looking for someone "less fortunate" that your self.
I know of some really good aussie guys married to indo girls of very long standiing marriages-and I also know many who are total loser bastards who have used their status/money to basically get someone who they percieve is going to be subserviant to them. THats the ones that make my blood boil.No need to give advice to those guys, although your intention was probably in the right place.

Well said ena, I agree with you whole heartly, I for one have a great life with my Indonesian lady

Thankyou! Im glad you do.

Hi Ena and Diyu..
Yep, i agree with u..
my sister married to OZ guy (actually, a kiwi )
she met him not in INDO, and i know he is so nice and treat my sister very nice and also respect my sis and our family..he even let my sis has own career at St. Kilda, Melb as bahasa indonesia teacher..and go to a muslim monthly meeting to learn Al Qur'an..

so nice or not it depend on the person, not the colour of skin

What ever you say lah Mr.Marzakelstyn
Nice tips n tricks anyway..LOL:D

Here's a set of rules I have drafted from my personal experiences and other 'bule gile' friends:

1. Talk like a DOG..
2. Walk like a DOG..
3. Read these rules like a DOG...
4. LOL

LOL.
St KIlda is a really really cool suburb in Melbourne. I love it so much! It has the best clothes, a great part of Acland Str is old jewish family bakeries so you can get THE best european cakes and coffee. I would love to live there!
And the reality for most middle class families in Australia is that both partners need to work to pay the mortgage on the house, or school fees etc.So its great that your sister can find a job she likes, and also a Quran group.She will be living in style in St Kilda-really really nice area-totally trendy and multicultural.

yes, u can said that again, u make me desire to see the place, the beautiful parks, and also the beach.maybe someday i will jogging there :-)
Yeah she say she always buy meat at Jewish 's shop, and they are very hospitable to her, maybe because her hubbie is jewish descent too hehehe..

If you wanna go to the beach--maaaf-tidak Melbourne kan! Sini Sydney aja -pantai disini yg lebih baik.
You must visit the beach named Bilgola Beach and Whale Beach-they are before Palm Beach, less crowded than turis-turis Palm Beach.( in Sydney )
St Kilda has the beach but its facing Tasmania and bloody cold!!!!

Hm, maybe i can meet u there :-)
but i only have family in Melbourne..
i will note down that beach name..who know's got opportunity to see that beach :-)
OK, GTG now..
u still in sidney or Jakarat now? it's around 9.30 PM there ?
good evening and have a nice day ..

Masih di Sydney.
Rinduan Jakarta!!!!!

oops, i broke my words, i am stil OL..
BTW, if u visit Jakarta, i will guide u (we do all women do, shopping hehehe)and see public library if any..
but i prefer go to QB shop at The semanggi plaza
there is quite cafe if u want OL with Note Book
bye for now

Thanks D-Q!!!

my sister married to OZ guy (actually, a kiwi )
Yahoo one for us kiwi,s

because her hubbie is jewish
Bloody hell a kiwi and a jew, Wonders will never cease

You may have the pleasure to discover that Mr. Marzakelstyn is in fact a Ms.... she's a bit odd, but she's okay despite this!

ya, well everyone knows that kiwis are just honorary australians.

hee hee-thats true!

But can,t those bloody kiwi,s play rugby. Pity the aussies cant

rugby is one of their expert, isnt Diyu ?
what races/ countries do u really like ? seems u hate all :-)
come on..

rugby is one of their expert, isnt Diyu ?

Odd or not, I'd definitely hit it

what races/ countries do u really like ? seems u hate all :-)
come on..
What people and countries do I like , Let me see, I like a country where people tolerate indifferences both inside and outside their borders, Where race, colour or creed is not an issue, Where people smile and enjoy each others company, Where there is not a class system and every one is equal, Aplace like my own country, AOTEAROA or sometimes called the land of the long white cloud

I also love Indonesia, many many pretty ladies hahahaha

I see...ok Thx..
Can I buy you a glass of juice, Lady?

Wow, such modesty!!!!

Indonesian girls are pretty cute, but so are Thai girls. For my money Korean girls are the best in the world, followed by japanese. Indonesian girls tend (like Thai girls) to be easy to impress with a little cash, and easy to get inot bed.

A hostess in Tokyo will expect AUD1000 for spending the night TALKING to you. no sex whatsover. For AUD50 you can get a Blok M girl to love you all night long :-)

I wonder why Indo girls are popular...

i've seen this posted before in expat.or.id forum, exactly the same thread but it was written by bule guy dunno who's the copy cat but its a bit old thread..anyway, its still nice to read that again though...cheers

yes, i suspect some forum old-timers are migrating to JakChat -- including the indefatigable dutch_guy -- and playing some of their old games ... welcome to JakChat kitten; love that shiny ass of yours!

we Love Jaksa so we migrating to JakChat!

yep! no visa required to migrate to JakChat! bebas fiskal!

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Marzakelstyn,

if you are a woman, let me tell you something. clearly it boils down the fact that indo women are some of the most desirable women on earth..envy tends to breed hate, doesn't it?

If you are a man, I think you are cheap! or the flat broke one..because rich men usually don't care how much money they going to spend for the girl they like! it doesn't matter what kind of girl they met..

hi booty..maybe you can find them in http://www.sexeducation.com...
because we didn't provide here...

Huh? It's not about me. It's about Marzakelstyn, who started this topic. Click on the link I posted to see what I mean ;-)

Booty your booty looks like its expanded?

Expanded booty = nice

What I dont understand is why some guy posted a picture of his (very small) penis on her page. i mean, if you have a maggot that small would you tell everyone?

Or do girls like to see this?

NO-we dont like to see that!
We prefer modesty mate.
Just like a ken doll

..hell no!

is yours small too?? i don't think 8 inches :p

its 12 inches, but I dont use it as a rule :-)