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#19141 - 17 Nov 05 08:25
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I know that you love Indonesian girls. you think we are the most beautiful stunning of all Asian girls, and you really like Indonesia that's why you spend so much time there. Here's a set of rules you have drafted from your personal experiences and other bule friends.
1) Learn the language and find a girl that cannot speak English. The likelihood of being completely hoodwinked goes down as you become more familiar with the people and culture. If she speaks excellent English and has not studied it in Uni or is not currently studying it in school you'll end up being the tenth bule who feels sorry for her and sends her 1m rp month.
2)Drop a girl immediately if she doesn't want you to learn the language. Girls who want to be deceitful don't want you to learn the language. The more ignorant the bule is about the culture/society the easier it is for him to be taken to the bank. Any decent, honest girl who wants to marry you would want you to be as proficient in the language as you could possibly be. You not knowing the language makes it easier for them to inflate prices. (ie. it costs a half million to get my hair done.)
3)For the first few months you are dating don't offer to pay for anything other than food/entertainment etc. Cheap gifts/flowers are okay. This doesn't mean you can't go out and spend $60 on a night out. Keep support at a minimum. Supporting them immediately will only foster deceit. If you want to pay for *** pay for ***! It's much easier and cheaper to pay for a hooker.
4)If she doesn't want you to learn the language because she intends to deceive you she will tell you things like: Bule who can speak English just argue over 1,000 rp with people!
5)If you are not in a committed relationship DO NOT SEND MONEY FROM OVERSEAS. This is simple. How easy is it for a tourist **** to make a bule fall in love with her......50 bucks a month is more than she will make working. It can be a good arrangment though. Send 50 bucks month come back for a month or two on holiday and have a "girlfriend" for some entertainment.
6)Don't forget unless you are very wealthy that your money goes far in Indonesia and for most you cannot live the same lifestyle in Indonesia. So from the get go make sure that she understands it's a charmed life as far as money is concerned with Bule in indonesia. It is often much much more different in the other country.
7)If you really want to get married i think it is crucial she go visit for a couple months before making a lifelong commitment. You also are making a commitment to returning to Indonesia ever so often so she can visit family. Most women do not want to visit Indonesia for three weeks once every four years. So make sure you will be able to have the $3-5k for a visit every year or two. Europe/America is cold as hell in the winter. They don't think about things like insurance. Spending $150 to heat a house in the winter. Often the girls would like to go back and spend 6 months or a year in their home country. Nice for you also if you love Indonesia! Flexibility.
8) also get a tourist visa or and get a 3 month fiance visa. Explain to her that you want her to have a look and see the lifestyle you'll be living. Make sure she gets a good look at all the good looking bule in Europe/Australia. You might not be as exotic and rich as you were when you were visiting Indonesia!!
9)Find a girl that has a job and has continuously had a job. Unless of course you don't care if she works in your country or not. Your monthly support will only generate laziness.
10)Don't give her any idea at all for the first few months how much money you make. Knowing your job is fine. Is it really relevant for them to know?
11)Know that you are not liked. You are a business for most people trying to befriend you. That that three dollar beer you just bought a friend is more than the days wage. I would like someone too if they bought me a $200 beer!!
12)If you have a girl you are serious about don't over-rent. That five bedroom house in Sumatra for 20 million a year will cover 2-3 months rent of a small flat in California/New York/London. And you won't be able to afford a made or cook in the West so don't get her accustomed to that!
Just to let everyone know..... I don't think all indonesia people are bad and always trying to take advantage of the Bule. It is a product of the difference in currencies. It is mostly economics. Americans/Europeans/Australians likely would act the same way if there were such a gap in currencies. Don't take it personally. Many Indonesians are brilliant. There's a lovely culture/food/scenery and people in Indonesia....unlike anywhere else.
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#19144 - 17 Nov 05 13:21
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nope, she's out standing indo girl.. i am proud of u gal :-)
but what happen in JKT or INdo is somewhat mutualism symbiosis between hunger bule who cant stand his hormone looking hot indo girls :-)
the bule guys need s e x the chicks need money..
quite that simple.. but 1 % is purely because GENUINE love..
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#19145 - 20 Nov 05 13:46
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Originally posted by douce_qipus: quite that simple.. but 1 % is purely because GENUINE love.. you're a hopeless case, D_Q!  you're a "true believer" in "true love"! admit it!
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#19146 - 25 Nov 05 18:50
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You not knowing the language makes it easier for them to inflate prices. (ie. it costs a half million to get my hair done.)
Shit me wifes screwing me, HA HA
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#19147 - 25 Nov 05 18:54
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the bule guys need s e x the chicks need money
And a bloody good arrangement it is
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#19149 - 26 Nov 05 17:02
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Well said ena, I agree with you whole heartly, I for one have a great life with my Indonesian lady
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#19151 - 26 Nov 05 17:45
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Hi Ena and Diyu.. Yep, i agree with u.. my sister married to OZ guy (actually, a kiwi ) she met him not in INDO, and i know he is so nice and treat my sister very nice and also respect my sis and our family..he even let my sis has own career at St. Kilda, Melb as bahasa indonesia teacher..and go to a muslim monthly meeting to learn Al Qur'an..
so nice or not it depend on the person, not the colour of skin
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#19155 - 26 Nov 05 18:12
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yes, u can said that again, u make me desire to see the place, the beautiful parks, and also the beach.maybe someday i will jogging there :-) Yeah she say she always buy meat at Jewish 's shop, and they are very hospitable to her, maybe because her hubbie is jewish descent too hehehe..
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#19157 - 26 Nov 05 18:33
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Hm, maybe i can meet u there :-) but i only have family in Melbourne.. i will note down that beach name..who know's got opportunity to see that beach :-) OK, GTG now.. u still in sidney or Jakarat now? it's around 9.30 PM there ? good evening and have a nice day ..
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#19159 - 26 Nov 05 18:45
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oops, i broke my words, i am stil OL.. BTW, if u visit Jakarta, i will guide u (we do all women do, shopping hehehe)and see public library if any.. but i prefer go to QB shop at The semanggi plaza there is quite cafe if u want OL with Note Book bye for now
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#19160 - 26 Nov 05 19:20
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#19161 - 26 Nov 05 19:42
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my sister married to OZ guy (actually, a kiwi ) Yahoo one for us kiwi,s
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#19162 - 26 Nov 05 19:44
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because her hubbie is jewish Bloody hell a kiwi and a jew, Wonders will never cease
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#19163 - 26 Nov 05 19:52
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Originally posted by KuKuLutus: What ever you say lah Mr.Marzakelstyn Nice tips n tricks anyway..LOL:D You may have the pleasure to discover that Mr. Marzakelstyn is in fact a Ms.... she's a bit odd, but she's okay despite this!
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#19164 - 26 Nov 05 19:54
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Originally posted by Diyu: my sister married to OZ guy (actually, a kiwi ) Yahoo one for us kiwi,s ya, well everyone knows that kiwis are just honorary australians.
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#19165 - 27 Nov 05 09:57
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