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#113451 - 29 Nov 10 15:35 WikiLeaks!!
juminten Offline
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Do you support the release of secret U.S. diplomatic correspondence by WikiLeaks?
msnbc.com - Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:39 PM EST
The White House has condemned the release of thousands of sensitive secret embassy documents as "reckless and dangerous," while WikiLeaks says the release is justified as it sheds a light on the "contradictions between the U.S. public persona and what it says behind closed doors."
http://msnbc.newsvine.com/_question/2010...ce-by-wikileaks

I do not support the release! wikileaks needs to be stopped! it's extremely dangerous for everybody.

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#113452 - 29 Nov 10 16:03 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
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WikiLeaks; it's reminding me with Julian Assange the founder of WikiLeaks..

when he got an interview with Atika Shubert from CNN, he walked out because he thought Atika tried to "touching" his personal life! so I said at that time; "he's too sensitive"

well, talking about WikiLeaks..I really don't care! LOL!!
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#113455 - 29 Nov 10 17:14 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Kitty]
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let it all hang out, baby. that's what i always say ...
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#113458 - 29 Nov 10 20:44 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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It's a beautiful thing.

I am watching this story with great interest.

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#113460 - 30 Nov 10 03:02 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
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Assange is a rapist!

* Assange is an Australian who spends much of his time in Sweden. Earlier this year, he was accused of sexual misconduct by TWO Swedish women. Swedish prosecutors opened, then dropped, then re-opened an investigation into the allegations. Sweden has authorized a warrant for his arrest on suspicion of "rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion." But Assange has not been formally charged with any crime in Sweden, and he has denied all the accusations.

* Sweden's media laws are among the world's most protective for journalists. In addition, Sweden's Pirate Party, which advocates reform of copyright law, has agreed to host WikiLeaks' servers, giving it additional legal protection.
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#113461 - 30 Nov 10 07:55 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
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Playing the man, not the ball, jum, and assuming guilt based on accusation only? Tsk, tsk. How disappointing.

But ok, let's assume for a moment that the allegation is true. In what way does this colour your view of wikileaks? How is it relevant to the issues of secrecy and government immunity that the release of these documents brings up?

The only media outlet I know that has been pushing the Assange-as-rapist angle strongly is, gulp, Fox News. Jum, you haven't been taking Bill-O as gospel on this have you?
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#113462 - 30 Nov 10 09:11 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
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yes, the charges did seem to be just a little too convenient. for the time being, best to take them with a grain of salt.
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#113463 - 30 Nov 10 09:34 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
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Quoting: Vulgarian
The only media outlet I know that has been pushing the Assange-as-rapist angle strongly is, gulp, Fox News.

this is an all-australian contest: murdoch versus assange, adelaide vs melbourne.
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#113476 - 30 Nov 10 15:26 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
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Quoting: Vulgarian
Playing the man, not the ball, jum, and assuming guilt based on accusation only? Tsk, tsk. How disappointing.

But ok, let's assume for a moment that the allegation is true. In what way does this colour your view of wikileaks? How is it relevant to the issues of secrecy and government immunity that the release of these documents brings up?

The only media outlet I know that has been pushing the Assange-as-rapist angle strongly is, gulp, Fox News. Jum, you haven't been taking Bill-O as gospel on this have you?

first, luckily i'm not a fan of Fox News nor Mr.O

the guy's a creepy egomaniac with questionable morals who likes puff himself up be getting the better of people and exposing them. he leaks indiscriminately, including documents of no real value (like sorority secrets) because it gets him attention, power, and gives him a thrill. all the public good stuff is just rubbish, he doesn't really care, it's all about him and his ego. you obviously have to have some twisted morals to want to rape someone and ego and power are a big part of it. it's as much about exerting your will on another as the sexual gratification. so it would be an indicator that indeed his work on wikileaks was for self centered reasons. I believe his work is valuable, necessary and good thing for society as long as not putting many lives at risk! by releasing the sensitive documents that contains of many informants around the world is irresponsible and plain wrong.



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#113478 - 30 Nov 10 16:08 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
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Phew. Good to hear re: Faux News, although you're still assuming he's guilty without proof and then projecting all sorts of psychological nastiness onto him.

Quoting: juminten
I believe his work is valuable, necessary and good thing for society as long as not putting many lives at risk! by releasing the sensitive documents that contains of many informants around the world is irresponsible and plain wrong.


Ah. But no one has: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/11/28/104404/officials-may-be-overstating-the.html

Quote:
"We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the WikiLeaks documents," (Pentagon Spokesman) Morrell told the Washington Post on Aug 11. But "there is in all likelihood a lag between exposure of these documents and jeopardy in the field."


This is just the desperate howl of those who know or fear that their grubby little dealings are about to be exposed.


Edited by Vulgarian (30 Nov 10 16:21)
Edit Reason: added quote
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#113479 - 30 Nov 10 23:45 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
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Wikkileaks....ha ha...for the stupid, brainless poms and yanks (goys/bules). It was all well planned and perfectly executed by the ones who own the media!

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#113480 - 01 Dec 10 05:16 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: moosad]
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Quoting: moosad
It was all well planned and perfectly executed by the ones who own the media!


The Aussies? Bastards.

Thanks for lifting the veil, moosad.
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#113482 - 01 Dec 10 12:44 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
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Quoting: Vulgarian
Phew. Good to hear re: Faux News, although you're still assuming he's guilty without proof and then projecting all sorts of psychological nastiness onto him.

innocent until proven guilty? that might depend on your celebrity status. Assange is a celebrity now. ask his supporters they say he's a hero, he didn't rape TWO women. remember OJ Simpson? do you believe he didn't kill his ex-wife Nicole Brown & Ron Goldman?

bottom line, he stole something that did not belong to him, he accepted stolen intellectual property, and that is immoral and wrong, It makes no difference what country. what if there were several wars generated from these document's contents? would Assange feel proud of himself?

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#113483 - 01 Dec 10 15:04 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
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NYT, November 29, 2010
The Fragile Community
By DAVID BROOKS

Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, had moved 37 times by the time he reached his 14th birthday. His mother didn’t enroll him in the local schools because, as Raffi Khatchadourian wrote in a New Yorker profile, she feared “that formal education would inculcate an unhealthy respect for authority.”

She needn’t have worried. As a young computer hacker, he formed a group called International Subversives. As an adult, he wrote “Conspiracy as Governance,” a pseudo-intellectual online diatribe. He talks of vast “patronage networks” that constrain the human spirit.

Far from respecting authority, Assange seems to be an old-fashioned anarchist who believes that all ruling institutions are corrupt and public pronouncements are lies.

For someone with his mind-set, the decision to expose secrets is easy. If the hidden world is suspect, then everything should be revealed. As The New Yorker reported, WikiLeaks has published technical details about an Army device designed to prevent roadside bombs from detonating. It posted soldiers’ Social Security numbers. This week, the group celebrated the release of internal State Department documents with a triumphalist statement claiming that the documents expose the corruption, hypocrisy and venality of U.S. diplomats.

For him, it’s easy. But for everyone else, it’s hard. My colleagues on the news side of this newspaper do not share Assange’s mentality. As the various statements from the editors have made abundantly clear, they face a much thornier set of issues.

As journalists, they have a professional obligation to share information that might help people make informed decisions. That means asking questions like: How does the U.S. government lobby allies? What is the real nature of our relationship with Pakistani intelligence? At the same time, as humans and citizens, my colleagues know they have a moral obligation not to endanger lives or national security.

The Times has thus erected a series of filters between the 250,000 raw documents that WikiLeaks obtained and complete public exposure. The paper has released only a tiny percentage of the cables. Information that might endanger informants has been redacted. Specific cables have been put into context with broader reporting.

Yet it might be useful to consider one more filter. Consider it the World Order filter. The fact that we live our lives amid order and not chaos is the great achievement of civilization. This order should not be taken for granted.

This order is tenuously maintained by brave soldiers but also by talkative leaders and diplomats. Every second of every day, leaders and diplomats are engaged in a never-ending conversation. The leaked cables reveal this conversation. They show diplomats seeking information, cajoling each other and engaging in faux-friendships and petty hypocrisies as they seek to avoid global disasters.

Despite the imaginings of people like Assange, the conversation revealed in the cables is not devious and nefarious. The private conversation is similar to the public conversation, except maybe more admirable. Israeli and Arab diplomats can be seen reacting sympathetically and realistically toward one another. The Americans in the cables are generally savvy and honest. Iran’s neighbors are properly alarmed and reaching out.

Some people argue that this diplomatic conversation is based on mechanical calculations about national self-interest, and it won’t be affected by public exposure. But this conversation, like all conversations, is built on relationships. The quality of the conversation is determined by the level of trust. Its direction is influenced by persuasion and by feelings about friends and enemies.

The quality of the conversation is damaged by exposure, just as our relationships with our neighbors would be damaged if every private assessment were brought to the light of day. We’ve seen what happens when conversations deteriorate (look at the U.S. Congress), and it’s ugly.

The WikiLeaks dump will probably damage the global conversation. Nations will be less likely to share with the United States. Agencies will be tempted to return to the pre-9/11 silos. World leaders will get their back up when they read what is said about them. Cooperation against Iran may be harder to maintain because Arab leaders feel exposed and boxed in. This fragile international conversation is under threat. It’s under threat from WikiLeaks. It’s under threat from a Gresham’s Law effect, in which the level of public exposure is determined by the biggest leaker and the biggest traitor.

It should be possible to erect a filter that protects not only lives and operations but also international relationships. It should be possible to do articles on specific revelations — Is the U.S. using diplomats to spy on the U.N.? What missile technology did North Korea give to Iran? — without unveiling in a wholesale manner the nuts and bolts of the diplomatic enterprise. We depend on those human conversations for the limited order we enjoy every day.
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#113484 - 02 Dec 10 10:01 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
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here's a conversion from FB, suitably "redacted":


Julian Assange is a ball and cock gobbler.

KJ Yeah I agree, he sucks
4 hours ago
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AH or is he a hero for demonstrating just how fucked up and pointless governments are? Mind you I suppose you can be a hero and gobble ball and cock on the side. God knows how he finds time to rape anybody.
3 hours ago
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RR One must always make time for a bit of rape and pillage!
3 hours ago
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JJ He's no hero. He's a self-obsessed little shit who's reasons for releasing classified documents make no sense. He's done it for the recognition and nothing else, and what's more, he's directly put Afghans at risk who were named in certain documents. So much for his heart bleeding for the Afghan people.
2 hours ago
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KJ I would say the ideals behind Wikileaks was great. However, when all you want to do is publish secrets with out redacting names, then you no longer deserve said recognition.
2 hours ago
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AH personally I am more interested in seeing what comes out of the Jakarta embassy
2 hours ago
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KJ Did you see that article I threw up on my page earlier about the Tea party wanting to bring back landed aristocracy?
2 hours ago
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RMZ Guy has monster balls releasing all that information. Good thing their servers were shut down today. His bounty is out, huh?
2 hours ago
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KKKC Assange iz da man!! kuku

i note the USAmerican media continues to report the leaks. but i guess that's different, isn't it?
about an hour ago
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JJ
USAmerican media? No mention of the UK's Guardian? Nice try, but try again.

It's all about motive, KKKC. Assange is giving classified information to the media to form a name for himself claiming to be some crusader, while at the same time..., putting at great risk certian Afghans and Iraqis he claims to be fighting for. The man's a monomanical, solopsistic prick. What's more, the news media can actually hide behing the freedom of the press. Assange cannot. Assange is soon very likely to be 'da man' for a long time in a cozy US Federal prison.See more
about an hour ago
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KKKC
i didn't say he wasn't an egomanic. wink but then, name a politician who isn't?

as to the hysteria about people's lives being lost, well, yes. i'm certain that peoples lives will be lost. that's life i guess. the lives lost will be nothing co...mpared to the US brokered war on iraq and other places.

and the US news media? are they somehow exempt from this hysteria? i think not! they are no better or worse than Assange for all their self-righteous chest thumping. free speech is not the preserve of news media organisations.See more
about an hour ago
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AH where his ball and cock gobbling skills will come in handy?
about an hour ago
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KKKC ‎@AH, i think he will be dead before he gets anywhere near the US. and unless he's kidnapped, i can't see any legal reason for a country to agree to his extradition to the US.
about an hour ago
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KJ If you are going to argue about something I would suggest you avoid logical fallacies. If you suggest that American war policies are more harmful than what Assange has done then you are using either an appeal to authority or appeal to emotion and a genetic fallacy. All distract from the act of what he has done to those that provided intelligence to NATO forces.
about an hour ago
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KKKC i hereby officially assert: American war policies are more harmful than what Assange has done.
about an hour ago
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JJ
‎@ KKKC: Regarding the news media being exempt. Actually, they ARE exempt. Legal precedent exists from the Pentagon papers released to various newspapers. The Supreme Court ruled that this is actually news, and is hence protected when th...e press releases them as news. Assange is not the press, and he's not registered member of the press in any country. He is therefore not exempted from prosecution by way of press freedom.

Now, onto your comments regarding lives lost not being comparable to the lives lost due to the US brokered war in Iraq. Is his releasing of various classified documents going to (A) bring those lost lives back, or (B) reduce the number of lives that will unfortunately be lost in the future in Iraq? The answer is a resounding NO on both counts, and as such, your mentioning this particular is pointless and perhaps even obfuscation. It simply underscores that his reasons for releasing the so called 'War Diary' information on his website are nothing but a smokescreen. If the man cared so much about Iraqis and Afghans, he wouldn't be releasing documents which name those of them who cooperate with coalition troops, some of which by the way are from your native country.See more
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KKKC
‎1) that's a very legalistic and possibly US-centric view of freedom of speech. i doubt it would be accepted in most democratic countries.

2) you either have freedom, or you don't. there's no halfway house. and the consequences of freedom ca...n sometimes be fatal. that's the price of freedom, i guess.

this whole issue is more about US govt diplomatic embarrassment than any issue relating to security.

ironically, thus far, i think the US state has come out this pretty well. their assessments of people and issues seem fair and accurate, and have reflected the need for the US to understand the diplomatic imperatives of other nations.See more
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JJ
‎1) I hope you're not forgetting that many foreign governments are hopping mad at the moment, and not at US personnel abroad for fulfilling their duties by reporting real intelligence back to our lawmakers by way of cables, but at Assange ...for releasing them to the press which, again, have every legal right to publish them. Why do you think he did this? It wasn't an accident. As such, I don't really see many foreign governments having any problem with allowing the US to extradite him.

2) Ever heard the saying, "Your rights end where mine begin?" I disagree wholeheartedly. Where does absolute freedom stop? Can I knowingly release your name to enemies of yours who want you dead and then myself be free of any responsibility for your death when it comes about at your enemies' hands? Is that what freedom is? Frankly, I think that Assange is such a sociopathic and egotistical person that he truly didn't think of the consequences of what he is doing.

3) It is my very strong opinion that if the USG does not seek and prosecute Assange to the fullest extent, then we ourselves are setting a very dangerous precedent for others to release information they may come to possess in the future.See more
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KKKC
‎1) there is no doubt that releasing the documents is extremely embarrassing to the US only because it's sources of information have been exposed. sources will now be far more reluctant to be frank and open with US officials. this is unfo...rtunate, but that's life. governments worldwide will have to get used to the idea of being accountable and transparent.

2) assange is an attention seeking egomaniac. this is not really an issue. if egomania was a crime, half the US population would be in gaol. wink does he care that people will die? i don't think so. but then, how many people in the West really care about the 250,000 iraqis who died in the Iraq II war? i know i don't. i know that i would have much preferred that they didn't die compeltely unneccessarily.

3) the US state must attempt to do *something* in order to salvage some credibiility and to assure its sources of information that they will not be revealed. that is the only imperative at the moment. the morality arguments are just side-shows.See more
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JJ
‎1) I agree partially in that it is also unfortunate for Assange in that he is going to be dealing with some extremely negative repercussions, all of which I hope are very public and legal. As you said, that's life. I do not agree, howeve...r, that governments should be transparent. Simply put, some secrets should remain secrets. This is not just true for my government, but for yours and others as well.

2) *Correction*: If half of the US population were egomaniacs **who also illegally leaked classified government documents**, I think you meant to say. Egomania is not a crime, although it is decidedly unattractive.

3) I agree, and that something should be legal, public and as harsh as the law will allow.
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#113494 - 02 Dec 10 16:10 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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julian assange is an open-source linux programer. here's the documentation of a little program he wrote a few years ago:


SURFRAW(1) SURFRAW(1)

NAME
surfraw - a fast unix command line interface to WWW services

SYNOPSIS
surfraw elviname [options] search words ...
sr elviname [options] search words ...
sr -elvi
sr bookmark


DESCRIPTION
Surfraw provides a fast unix command line interface to a variety of
popular WWW search engines and other artifacts of power. It reclaims
google, altavista, dejanews, freshmeat, research index, slashdot and
many others from the false‐prophet, pox‐infested heathen lands of html‐
forms, placing these wonders where they belong, deep in unix heartland,
as god loving extensions to the shell.


Surfraw consists of a collection of elvi, each of which knows how to
search a specific web site. To see the list of elvi type:

surfraw -elvi

Note that sr is an alias for surfraw, so that could equally be

sr -elvi

To search using an elvis use:

sr elviname [options] search terms..

For example, to search google for information on Debian ports, using
the "I'm feeling lucky" option:

sr google -l debian ports


Adding the elvi to your path
If you are a regular user of surfraw, you will probably get sick of
typing sr or surfraw each time. You can regain the old behaviour of
running the elvi directly by adding the elvi directory (‐
/usr/lib/surfraw) to your path, either manually or using
surfraw-update-path(1).


Bookmarks
Surfraw now supports bookmarks. To add a bookmark, add it to
/etc/surfraw.bookmarks or $HOME/.surfraw.bookmarks

The format of the bookmarks file is simple, each bookmark is on a sepa‐
rate line, with the bookmark and URL separated by whitespace, eg:

ntk http://www.ntk.net/

To invoke a bookmark, use "surfraw bookmark" or "sr bookmark", and if
an elvis of that name doesn't exist, it searches for a bookmark of that
name instead.

There are some example bookmarks in /etc/surfraw.bookmarks


OPTIONS
Use sr elviname -help for elvi‐specific options.

The following options work with all elvi.


-help Show summary of options (including elvi‐specific options).


-version
Show version of program.


-browser=EXECUTABLE
Set browser (default: sensible-browser).


-elvi Display a list of other Surfraw mechanisms for conquering evil.


-escape-url-args=yes|no
Apply url escaping to arguments (default: yes)


-q|-quote
Bracket all arguments with " characters (default: no). Note
that putting quotes round arguments works now, so you can do,
for example:

sr google foo "bar baz" bam

and the quoting is passed on to the search engine


-quiet=yes|no
I can't enjoy it with you talking all the time (default: no)


EXAMPLES
$ sr ask why is jeeves gay?
$ surfraw google -results=100 RMS, GNU, which is sinner, which is sin?
$ sr austlii -method=phrase dog like
$ /usr/lib/surfraw/rhyme -method=perfect Julian


CONFIGURATION
Surfraw gets its configuration from three sources, in order:


1. Environment variables

2. /etc/surfraw.conf

3. $HOME/.surfraw.conf


/etc/surfraw.conf and $HOME/.surfraw.conf are both fragments of bourne‐
shell style shell script.

/etc/surfraw.conf should use def and defyn to define variables. These
functions set variables unless they are already set by the environment.
defyn is used for boolean configuration variables, def for all others.
For instance:

def SURFRAW_text_browser /usr/bin/lynx
defyn SURFRAW_graphical no

$HOME/.surfraw.conf should use sh‐style entries, eg:

SURFRAW_text_browser=/usr/bin/lynx
SURFRAW_graphical=no

This is because you want them to override environment variables uncon‐
ditionally.


CONFIGURATION VARIABLES
SURFRAW_global_conf
Location of global configuration file.

Default:

def SURFRAW_global_conf /etc/surfraw.conf


SURFRAW_conf
Location of per‐user configuration file.

Default:

def SURFRAW_conf $HOME/.surfraw.conf


SURFRAW_graphical
Whether to use a graphical browser.

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_graphical no


SURFRAW_text_browser
Name/path of text browser executable. e.g. links, lynx, w3m

Default:

def SURFRAW_text_browser sensible-browser


SURFRAW_graphical_browser
Name/path of graphical browser executable. e.g mozilla,
netscape etc.

Default:

def SURFRAW_graphical_browser sensible-browser


SURFRAW_text_browser_args
Text browser arguments, or "none".

Default:

def SURFRAW_text_browser_args none


SURFRAW_graphical_browser_args
Graphical browser arguments, or "none".

Default:

def SURFRAW_graphical_browser_args none


SURFRAW_graphical_remote
Whether to use "-remote openURL" for graphical browser.

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_graphical_remote yes


SURFRAW_new_window
When using SURFRAW_graphical_remote, open a new window?

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_new_window no


SURFRAW_screen

Name of screen command to run.

Default:

def SURFRAW_screen screen


SURFRAW_new_screen
If surfraw is running under screen(1), start a new screen for
each text browser invocation?

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_new_screen no


SURFRAW_quiet
I can't enjoy it with you talking all the time.

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_quiet no


SURFRAW_quote_args
Whether to "quote" all the arguments.

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_quote_args no


SURFRAW_quote_ifs
Whether to re‐quote arguments if they have spaces in, ie so:
sr google foo "bar baz" bam
works as expected.

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_quote_ifs yes


SURFRAW_results
Default number of results to return (not supported by all elvi).

Default:

def SURFRAW_results 30


SURFRAW_escape_url_args
Whether to escape [% "$%&+,/:;<=>?@[{|}~'] characters in command
line arguments subsequently used to construct a url.

Default:

defyn SURFRAW_escape_url_args yes


FILES
/usr/lib/surfraw
Location of the elvi.



/etc/surfraw.conf
Default system wide configuration file.


$HOME/.surfraw.conf
Default per‐user config file


/etc/surfraw.bookmarks
System wide bookmarks file.


$HOME/.surfraw.bookmarks
Per‐user bookmarks file.


BUGS
Please report any bugs found (or any web sites in need of surfrawizing)
either via the debian bug tracking system (http://bugs.debian.org/) or
to the surfraw-devel list (surfraw-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org).


SEE ALSO
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/surfraw/


PROPAGANDA
Oh Baybe
I need some
Deep Linking
Let us go
Surfin' in the raw!

Read HACKING. Surfrawize the soul of your favourite internet wonder.
Join the Shell Users' Revolutionary Front Against the WWW by submitting
code. Reclaim heathen lands. Bear witness to the truth. Its love
will set you free.

Join us on surfraw-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org


AUTHORS
Originally written by Julian Assange.

Now maintained by the surfraw-devel team <‐
surfraw-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>.

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Copyright (c) 2000-2001 Julian Assange
Copyright (c) 2001 Australian Institute for Collaborative Research
Copyright (c) 2000 Melbourne Institute for Advanced Study

The copyright holders listed above assert no rights on this release of
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Feb 03, 2004 SURFRAW(1)
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#113500 - 02 Dec 10 22:43 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: KuKuKaChu]
moosad Offline
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.......and then mossad stepped in with a bagful of goodies....lifting the veil or dropping the pants depends on ones point of view. Unlike the poms & yanks the Aussies know their ass(ange) from their murd(doch) it seems.

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#113508 - 04 Dec 10 09:43 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: moosad]
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10790
Loc: Centre of the Universe
Indonesia creates team to study WikiLeaks cables

Communication and Information Technology Minister Tifatul Sembiring said his ministry had assigned a team to collect diplomatic documents leaked by whistleblowing website WikiLeaks related to Indonesia.

Tifatul said the results of the study would be submitted to the Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal and Security Affairs Djoko Suyanto.

“We are still in the preliminary document collection process. We need to explain to the public should we find [the documents] invalid,” Tifatul said.

Early on Sunday, the UK’s The Guardian reported WikiLeaks had provided advance copies of 251,287 documents, 3,059 of which came from the US Embassy in Jakarta and 167 from the US Consulate in Surabaya, East Java.

“We need to clarify and respond, for example, if some of the documents contain propaganda,” he said, as quoted by tempointeraktif.com.

Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa said the Indonesian government was cooperating with the US Embassy in Jakarta and the Indonesian Embassy in Washington to monitor the leaked documents.

"We are continuing to follow the updates to see whether or not [confidential information] was leaked relating to Indonesia,” he said.

Guardian.co.uk reported today that the US is being accused of opening up a dramatic new front against WikiLeaks, effectively “killing” the website just days after Amazon pulled the site from its servers following political pressure.

The website went offline for the third time in a week this morning – the biggest threat to its online presence yet.

Joe Lieberman, chairman of the US Senate’s committee on homeland security, earlier this week called for any organization helping to sustain WikiLeaks to “immediately terminate” its relationship with the site.

On Friday morning, WikiLeaks and its cache of secret diplomatic documents that have proved to be a scourge for governments around the world, was only accessible through a string of digits known as a DNS address. The site later reemerged with a Swiss domain, WikiLeaks.ch.

Julian Assange said today that the development is an example of the “privatization of state censorship” in the US and is a “serious problem.”

“These attacks will not stop our mission, but should be setting off alarm bells about the rule of law in the United States,” he said.

The California-based Internet provider that dropped WikiLeaks at 3 a.m. GMT on Friday (10 a.m. Jakarta time), Everydns, says it did so to prevent its other 500,000 customers from being affected by the intense cyber attacks targeted at WikiLeaks.
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#113512 - 04 Dec 10 10:42 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Registered: 08 Dec 05
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"The website went offline for the third time in a week this morning – the biggest threat to its online presence yet."
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I guess another super geek named "th3j35t3r" crushed the wikileaks down! he wrote on his twitter:

th3j35t3r
www.wikileaks.org - TANGO DOWN - for attempting to endanger the lives of our troops, 'other assets' & foreign relations #wikileaks #fail
1:36 PM Nov 28th via web
www.wikileaks.org - TANGO DOWN - for attempting to endanger the lives of our troops, 'other assets' & foreign relations #wikileaks #fail #js
10:56 AM Nov 28th via web
If I was a wikileaks 'source' right now I'd be getting a little twitchy, if they cant protect their own site, how can they protect a src?
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#113513 - 04 Dec 10 11:01 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Quoting: juminten
If I was a wikileaks 'source' right now I'd be getting a little twitchy, if they cant protect their own site, how can they protect a src?

they can't. their source, a US military officer, is already under arrest and has been for many months.
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#113516 - 04 Dec 10 12:11 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: KuKuKaChu]
juminten Offline
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Registered: 08 Dec 05
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Quoting: KuKuKaChu
Quoting: juminten
If I was a wikileaks 'source' right now I'd be getting a little twitchy, if they cant protect their own site, how can they protect a src?

they can't. their source, a US military officer, is already under arrest and has been for many months.

you mean bradley manning? i think she/he is done! dead meat.
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#113518 - 04 Dec 10 12:23 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
juminten Offline
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Registered: 08 Dec 05
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ku, watch this video. so cool! put in full screen.

http://vimeo.com/17290325

Second video of XerXes DoS Attack from Infosec Island on Vimeo.

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#113524 - 04 Dec 10 18:11 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: juminten]
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Registered: 25 Apr 08
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#113525 - 04 Dec 10 18:58 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
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Julian Assange is the bastard lovechild of Bill Maher and Colin Mochrie.

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#113526 - 05 Dec 10 07:25 Re: WikiLeaks!! [Re: Vulgarian]
KuKuKaChu Moderator Offline
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Registered: 09 Oct 05
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Australia has abandoned me: Assange

As authorities close in on Julian Assange, the controversial Wikileaks founder has blasted Australia's response to the scandal, saying the Federal Government has thrown away his rights in an attempt to pander to US interests.

[well that's a first; the australian govt pandering to US interests. who would have thought? come on julian! you've been a supposed anarchist for 20 years and you've just figured that out?]

The 39-year-old Australian has embarrassed the US government and foreign leaders by leaking thousands of secret American diplomatic cables.

And Swedish authorities have issued a fresh arrest warrant over sex crime allegations against Mr Assange, who is believed to be hiding in Britain.

Mr Assange broke his silence in an online Q&A session for the Guardian newspaper, in which he questioned the motives of the Australian Government.

"I am an Australian citizen and I miss my country a great deal," he wrote.

[julian, if you miss australia, then there is something seriously wrong with you and your politics.]

"However, during the last weeks the Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, and the Attorney General, Robert McClelland, have made it clear that not only is my return impossible but that they are actively working to assist the United States government in its attacks on myself and our people."

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has been heavily critical of Mr Assange, labelling him 'grossly irresponsible' and calling the leaks illegal.

[the leaks are "illegal"? that's interesting. what australian law would julia "narelle" gillard intend to use?]

The Attorney General, Robert McClelland, has asked the AFP to investigate whether Mr Assange has broken any laws in leaking the US diplomatic cables.

[oh! so they're still looking for a law! ok, i get it.]

In response, the Wikileaks head questioned the value of his citizenship, comparing his treatment to that of David Hicks.

"This brings into question what does it mean to be an Australian citizen - does that mean anything at all," he wrote.

[suck it in, julian. you're supposed to be an anarchist. you should know what to expect from nation states.]

"Or are we all to be treated like David Hicks at the first possible opportunity merely so that Australian politicians and diplomats can be invited to the best US embassy cocktail parties."

But Mr McClelland has stopped short of cancelling Mr Assange's passport, saying it would be counter-productive.

[not only counter-productive, but illegal. but illegality does not seem to impede the govts of australia, US, Sweden, the UK, etc]

The Attorney General says Australian authorities considered cancelling his passport but decided against it.

[in other words, the oz AG was told it would be illegal.]

"There has been some discussion as to whether it would be counter productive to remove the identification that would trigger the law enforcement processes," he said.

[what?! moron.]


Mr Assange's London-based lawyer Mark Stephens said he was not aware whether authorities in Britain had yet received the latest international arrest warrant, which was issued in relation to allegations of rape and sexual molestation.

However, Mr Stephens confirmed that any potential arrest of his client would take place by arrangement.

He added: "The last warrant took 10 days to come through, we know that it was incompetently filled out, so another one was sent on Friday.

"So I expect another 10 days, unless of course they are going to treat Julian Assange differently than anyone else."

Mr Assange has denied the allegations and hinted they could be part of a "smear campaign" designed to distract attention from the leaks.

Funding cut

While authorities zone in on Mr Assange, WikiLeaks faces a fresh threat to its survival after the online payment service PayPal cut off the account used for donations to the whistle-blowing website.

WikiLeaks is already fighting to stay on the Internet. It had to switch its domain to Switzerland because its original web address was shut down by a US provider, as it continues to release tens of thousands of classified US diplomatic cables.

The US-based PayPal, which is owned by auctions group eBay, announced overnight that it would stop taking donations for WikiLeaks thus blocking a key source of its income.

"PayPal has permanently restricted the account used by WikiLeaks due to a violation of the PayPal acceptable use policy, which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity," it said in a statement.

WikiLeaks blamed "US government pressure" for the PayPal ban, in a message on its Twitter feed.

Meanwhile, some targets of the sometimes brutally frank US diplomats' assessments threw doubt on their credibility.

Afghan president Hamid Karzai said at least one of the incidents described in a cable which portrayed him as corrupt and weak could not have happened as described, while he dismissed others as an attempt by US officials to discredit him and his government.

In one cable, US diplomats said one of Mr Karzai's deputies had transported $SU52 million out of the country in suitcases, a claim Mr Karzai rejected.

US secretary of state Hillary Clinton said on Saturday she had contacted dozens of foreign leaders to smooth over any frictions and will continue to do so for "the next weeks".

"I haven't seen everybody in the world, and apparently there are 252,000 of these things out there in cyberspace somewhere," she said, noting that all of them had not yet been published.

"So I think I'll have some outreach to continue doing over the next weeks just to make sure that as things become public, if they raise concerns, I will be prepared to reach out and talk to my counterparts and heads of state and governments."

The release marked the third major publication of secret US files by WikiLeaks this year, after the site had published tens of thousands of US military files from the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts.

WikiLeaks was forced to turn to Switzerland for a new domain name after its original wikileaks.org address was shut down by an American provider, while Paris tried to ban French servers from hosting it.

The Swiss domain - www.wikileaks.ch - was up and running again on Saturday after migrating to new servers, the group which owns the name said.

- ABC/AFP
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