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#101442 - 21 Jun 09 14:49
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: kenyeung]
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Pooh Bah
Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10179
Loc: Centre of the Universe
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clearly innocent. who could argue?
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#101444 - 21 Jun 09 18:09
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: kenyeung]
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Pujangga
Registered: 25 Apr 08
Posts: 2053
Loc: Jakarta
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So she is most definitely beyond reproach. I certainly wouldn't like to try.
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#101445 - 21 Jun 09 18:15
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Vulgarian]
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Pooh Bah
Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10179
Loc: Centre of the Universe
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So she is most definitely beyond reproach. I certainly wouldn't like to try. kenyeung's judgment in these matters is impeccable. if he says she's beyond reproach, then that's good enough for me.
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#101448 - 21 Jun 09 22:18
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: kenyeung]
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Registered: 21 May 09
Posts: 3
Loc: indonesia cibubur jakarta
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thank you for those who have responded to my original posting. My crisis is 100% genuine and not exaggerated. I have been forced by visa expiry and lack of money to leave Indonesia for the time being and I am trying to check indirectly whether the actions my wife have taken has actually and officially led me to being blacklisted and prevented from re-entering UK. My first step, I suspect, is to report my difficulty to the British Embassy in Jakarta, as I have here, in an effort to try and pre-empt any potential arrest by Indonesian authorities should I arrive at the airport and I am seized.
The additional consequence for me is that in a global crisis with no work for anyone, I am jobless. Uk government cannot give me unemployment money or a place to stay because I have been out of the country too long and my assets are regarded as joint in Indonesia, so when in UK, I sleep in my car with one meal a day because my situation is genuinely desparate. I have no more family in Uk and few friends, not friends who can accommodate me.
I am in a paralysed situation. I am not a rich person even with my assets from Indonesia but now I hve my wife talking about a plan for our older son to become a pilot (he is 11 by the way) and the house has to be used for his future and cannot be sold. What about my future and my survival?
Thanks again for all who have so far responded.
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#101451 - 22 Jun 09 06:02
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: mrcibubur]
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Pujangga
Registered: 16 Apr 07
Posts: 2374
Loc: Indonesia
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What kind of work did you do in Indonesia? Lots of UK jobs listed here: http://www.jobsite.co.uk/jobs/And it's laudable that your wife has a career plan for your son.
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#101452 - 22 Jun 09 07:51
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: kenyeung]
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Pooh Bah
Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10179
Loc: Centre of the Universe
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And it's laudable that your wife has a career plan for your son. the lad could get a job with Garuda, and moonlight for BIN. actually, i'm surprised she hasn't lined him up for auditions to become a bintang cilik, as is the tradition for blasteran children in indonesia ... which reminds me, what ever happened to joshua?
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#101966 - 03 Jul 09 13:34
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: mrcibubur]
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Registered: 02 Jul 09
Posts: 1
Loc: Jakarta
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Assuming you were married, a divorce in Indonesia would result in the property being split 50%:50%. The court would probably, but not definitely, award you custody of any children as they presumably have your nationality and that's the rules under islam which, let's face it, is what guides thinking in this place.
Unless you have committed a crime, or you are suspected of criminal behavior, the police would have no reason to arrest you and if you are a British citizen you have the RIGHT OF ABODE in the UK.
It sounds like you need to stop being such a self pitying pussy and stand up for yourself.
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#101975 - 03 Jul 09 14:46
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: TheExpat]
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Registered: 14 Jun 06
Posts: 1066
Loc: Bali
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Assuming you were married, a divorce in Indonesia would result in the property being split 50%:50%. The court would probably, but not definitely, award you custody of any children as they presumably have your nationality and that's the rules
This is Indonesia you Twat ,.. what fucken rules?? It sounds like you need to stand up and smell the roses Asshole
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#102000 - 03 Jul 09 18:28
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Balibob]
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Registered: 11 Apr 09
Posts: 3
Loc: Indonesia
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Dear Mr cibubur, you are in really difficult situation. family should be the comfort shelter for one when the world outside is not our friend. the situation is now your family now against you. Just suggestions: 1. you should face the reality : get a job to live your life right now (the best when you can get the job suits to your competency but if cant why not trying to teach english at least to live your life normaly.. we have do adjustment in life). if you can find a job in indo is better (to be closer to your son) but if can not at uk is not bad to pull your life together again. sometimes distance is good to give a room to us and to others to understand the problem. 2. you need to ask professional about your case. lawyer and british embassy. (it will cost money of course) at least you know the plan you should make when you know the law. 3. keep a good relationship with your son (call or write email to him regulary). he needs you as a daddy and beside it, your wife will see that you are a good father for the son (even you have bad situation right now but u still give love to your son). 4. it might be difficult to keep positive ideas about our wife (after what she done to you as u told in your open letter here). you can try to talk to her heart to heart about your condition (it will need more than 100 times maybe). but she is human and she stil have heart (even not anymore love for u). who knows she sees and understand your situation. God bless you and never give up 
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#102002 - 03 Jul 09 20:05
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Balibob]
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Registered: 25 Jun 09
Posts: 67
Loc: Korea
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Assuming you were married, a divorce in Indonesia would result in the property being split 50%:50%. The court would probably, but not definitely, award you custody of any children as they presumably have your nationality and that's the rules
This is Indonesia you Twat ,.. what fucken rules?? It sounds like you need to stand up and smell the roses Asshole Why don't you give the OP a job then, he could make swanski flavoured square sausages for your business - this time next year you'll be a millionaire. Does seem like the OP has been a trifle careless over his situation though.
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#102035 - 04 Jul 09 14:24
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Mark Park]
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Registered: 14 Jun 06
Posts: 1066
Loc: Bali
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Why don't you give the OP a job then, he could make swanski flavoured square sausages for your business - this time next year you'll be a millionaire. I have been a millionaire for a few years now Asshole,.. something you will never be Now fuck of and get that FAG Machine fixed like a good little wanker that u are
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#102036 - 04 Jul 09 14:42
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Balibob]
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Registered: 25 Jun 09
Posts: 67
Loc: Korea
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Why don't you give the OP a job then, he could make swanski flavoured square sausages for your business - this time next year you'll be a millionaire. I have been a millionaire for a few years now Asshole,.. something you will never be Now fuck of and get that FAG Machine fixed like a good little wanker that u are Hehehe. Yes, of course you are, You can't even tell someone to "fuck off" without making a balls of it.
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#102038 - 04 Jul 09 14:57
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Derek Gratis]
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Pooh Bah
Registered: 09 Oct 05
Posts: 10179
Loc: Centre of the Universe
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i'm getting a coronary just looking at it ...
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#102039 - 04 Jul 09 15:06
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: KuKuKaChu]
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Registered: 25 Jun 09
Posts: 67
Loc: Korea
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i'm getting a coronary just looking at it ... Swan is very low fat, ideal in fact for square sausages.
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#102109 - 05 Jul 09 15:08
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: mrcibubur]
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Registered: 04 Jul 09
Posts: 6
Loc: jakarta
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hiiii
i've read your note,in actually i was an indonesian but i dont have a friend in the situation like you,but i really sorry to hear that... i hope you will fing the solution asap.. cheer up...
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#102152 - 06 Jul 09 02:35
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: tanny]
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Registered: 06 Jul 09
Posts: 2
Loc: U.K.
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Mrcibubur: "I am trying to check indirectly whether the actions my wife have taken has actually and officially led me to being blacklisted and prevented from re-entering."
There's a good chance you have been - it's easily done.
"My first step, I suspect, is to report my difficulty to the British Embassy in Jakarta, as I have here, in an effort to try and pre-empt any potential arrest by Indonesian authorities should I arrive at the airport and I am seized."
Forget it! The FCO defines itself by what it cannot do, not by what it can.
"I am jobless. Uk government cannot give me unemployment money or a place to stay because I have been out of the country too long and my assets are regarded as joint in Indonesia, so when in UK, I sleep in my car with one meal a day because my situation is genuinely desparate. I have no more family in Uk and few friends, not friends who can accommodate me."
Go to your local authority - they have an obligation to house you.
Take things step-by-step. You have a long way to go yet. Justice comes from perseverence, but it could take many years and Indonesian lawyers will not help much. Take care of yourself first - the emotional violation runs deep - but don't lose heart, keep your self-respect, strive to bring the constructive out of this crime. All the very best.
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#102317 - 09 Jul 09 03:25
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Percy]
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Registered: 21 May 09
Posts: 3
Loc: indonesia cibubur jakarta
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thanks again for all those who have troubled to respond to my original and subsequent posting. It is indeed true that the British Consulate in Jakarta are unhelpful to my phlight and merely provide me with a list of lawyers names (which I had anyway from the internet)and so I take the next course of seeking out a lawyer or alternative person who can verify whether sufficient or any information/allegation has been made to indonesian authorities which would affect my right of re-entry to Indonesia.
I am of course seriously hampered by a lack of job and lack of money. I am not trying to wallow in self-pity, as someone here has put it, but endeavoured to be pro-active in seeking a solution to my problems. I wish to kick-start my life with a small business either in UK or Indonesia but I need a deposit to start that business which is wrapped up in the family assets in my wifes name.
Email and internet access is permitted to my children but under controlled circumstances.
Having been away from the UK for a long time (though not so long continiously) and having regard to my age and lack of urgency because I do not have chidlren requiring to be rehoused, the British local government are NOT bound to rehouse you or to provide any unemployment benefit, even though I continue to pay National Insurance.
I have sought work inUSA and without success, I continue to seek work in both UK and Indonesia. I wish to work and earn money to provide for myself and my family, whatever the outcome but I am presently uanble to fulfil that.
There appears to be no safety net and in my own situation you just keep falling and hope that sometime soon it can stop. Present contact with my wife is minimal by telephone and email and not addressing the issues which concern me.
I am still looking for that job which will provide the income and give me a foundation to move forward with life. I always thought that husband and wife stay together whether for rich or poor and fight it out and I had believed in my wife to support me through a difficult professional period of my life, alas not.
It is a warning to us all because we all make wrongdoings. At the end, we try to have faith and pray for the solution. I do not want to lose my wife or my children or my home or other things in my life that I have worked for.
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#102407 - 11 Jul 09 01:57
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Marmalade]
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Registered: 06 Jul 09
Posts: 2
Loc: U.K.
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Mrcibubur, sadly, you are very likely to lose it all. Go to your local authority, go to Shelter, etc. In the UK there are safety nets, whereas in Indonesia there are none. Consider yourself lucky. Without children in the UK you will not be given priority, but you will be given help. I've been where you are now.
Also find some seasonal work, whatever it may be.
Where are you in the UK? Email me/respond to my message to you - perhaps I can help.
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#102408 - 11 Jul 09 11:05
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: Percy]
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Registered: 11 Apr 09
Posts: 3
Loc: Indonesia
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Dear Mr cibubur, dear Mr cibubur i m glad u still contact your children. it is love to make children understand they have daddy who loves them even in difficult situation. prayer is the most powerful force in the univese. When you pray, something happens. The things are set in motions. there are always a hope  prayer can move ur wife's heart. even bit slow motion. i think u better to make a contact Percy so there is a bright side to find any alternative ways. keep trying to find "english teacher" in indonesia as i think they still need many native teacher and beside it.. you lived in indonesia for long time (it is the plus point for u) you are right. the ideal is husband and wife and children support each other. but life is not perfect. hurts .. i hope one day your wife or children will show respect and show bit of kind hearted .. again.. life is not perfect. you have to keep trying yet prepare your heart if it is going not success. one thing u have to remember.. dont lose yourself. God bless you always.
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#106120 - 08 Nov 09 18:30
Re: Marriage and Divorce with Indonesian Lady
[Re: kenyeung]
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Registered: 17 Apr 09
Posts: 13
Loc: singapore
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Sad to hear your story; Anyway, Life in this country has never been fair for me(local), furthermore a foreigner??
It's a country that I have abandoned, no feelings for and now I am just waiting to change my green passport colour to ...
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testicular fortitude balls, guts, intestinal fortitude
He lacked the testicular fortitude to stand up to his boss.
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